V-1

[Brent]

Has anyone built a flying V-1. I know this would be quite a challenge. I noticed Caveman Rocketry in Europe produced a kit (https://www.cavemanrocketry.com/v1_pid737.html), but are there any available state side? I noticed allot of buyer beware from people not receiving their kits from him.

 

[cwbullet]

Brent,

I have seen this kit, but never ordered it myself. I am always worried about ordering from over seas. Add onto it the buyer beware and there is no way I am ordering one.

Maybe we can do a club project and build an upscale.

 

[Brent]

That would be awesome. I ordered a 1/18 scale plastic model last night. I will see how much trouble it would be to get the CG/CP of it.

 

[Eric1]

I'm in! This could be fun!

 

[JStitz]

How does this design fly with that draggy motor pod? power arc? Just curious..op:


Edit: That would be cool to see an R/C glider version..

 

[cwbullet]

If you guys start designing and building, we can launch in September at Freedom Launch. Bridgett and I are in. I will be home in May for 2 weeks and back permanently in August.

 

[mikeyd]

I have one to build, in my build pile, from Noris-Raketen, the only problem is I do not read German
https://www.noris-raketen.de

 

[BEAR]

On rocket gliders I have built in the past, that had pods on them and they were configured as an airplane, (i.e.) Estes Falcon, the horizontal stabilizer always had several degrees on inclination to keep it from power arcing. I would guess if you were building a Fieseler Fi-103, you would need to add inclination to the horizontal stabilizer also, and add additional fins because the vertical stabilizer is so small and might be cancelled out by the shape of the motor pod, (this is assuming you are trying to build one that is close to scale); and if it is free flight, you might need to have the elevator on the horizontal stabilizer kick up at the ejection charge and then trim to just before the stall, or you have to make it radio control, and use ailerons (which were not on the real aircraft) to help with directional stability by inducing roll. This could be considerably harder than normal (at least what is considered normal, by some) because most pod gliders have forward pods and not rearward. ON the other hand, I might be all wet. You might also need to eject the motor to change CG for glide, but I do not think so, since the CG is pretty far forward anyway because the wings just ahead of the center of the length of the fuselage, and the rocket motor and nozzle will probably be behind the trailing edge of the horizontal stabilizer.

 

[luke strawwalker]

I have one to build, in my build pile, from Noris-Raketen, the only problem is I do not read German
https://www.noris-raketen.de

Google translate is your friend...

Later! OL JR

 

[BEAR]

I have one to build, in my build pile, from Noris-Raketen, the only problem is I do not read German
https://www.noris-raketen.de

Is this a rocket with parachute recovery or a rocket glider? I would be interested to know and if there are any diagrams or pictures on/in the instructions, then I certainly would appreciate seeing them.

 

[mikeyd]

Google translate is your friend...

Later! OL JR

Yep, just does not help on the instructions! Good thing they are simple.

 

[mikeyd]

Is this a rocket with parachute recovery or a rocket glider? I would be interested to know and if there are any diagrams or pictures on/in the instructions, then I certainly would appreciate seeing them.

Just simple parachute recovery. The main instructions show pictures, for a 3fnc rocket build, the only part that is unique is the front page, and a few templates for the wings. Standard white body tubes, with plastic, looks like injection molded, nose, tail, and ramjet cones. I scanned all the instructions and measurements to PDF, but it is too large to attach

 

[aerostadt]

Just simple parachute recovery. The main instructions show pictures, for a 3fnc rocket build, the only part that is unique is the front page, and a few templates for the wings. Standard white body tubes, with plastic, looks like injection molded, nose, tail, and ramjet cones. I scanned all the instructions and measurements to PDF, but it is too large to attach

This really looks cool. Is this a sports scale or a true scale?

 

[BEAR]

Thanks for the photographs. It looks cool. It would be neat to see it fly. At Balls this year, (my first time going and with all the people that I met and all the things I saw, and me not being as good with names as I should be, I guess I might have been a little over-whelmed) one of the participants who was a really nice guy, flew a radio controlled Messerschmidt Me 163 Komet. It had about a 5 foot wing span as I recall, and flew it on a pretty hefty motor. It got up several hundred feet and then he flew by the flight line make some high speed gliding passes. It was a sight to see. I guess I was trying to imagine a way to launch a scale model of a "Buzz" Bomb and be able to do the same thing as the Komet glider. (Of course it would also be cool to everyone but the builder to have a radio controlled Mustang or Spitfire to fly along side and topple it.)

 

[luke strawwalker]

Yep, just does not help on the instructions! Good thing they are simple.

You can't scan them in and cut-n-paste into the translate box, or even do it the hard way and just type in the text in the translate box?? I've done that on some stuff recently and it worked reasonably well for me...

YMMV... later! OL JR

 

[burkefj]

I've done a parachute recovered rocket version using a stuffer tube, basswood wings/tail and vacu-formed body and pulsejet, I did mount the motor in the rear of the fuse instead of trying to deal with offset thrust. The pulsejet was flow-through(hollow) and caused just a bit of offset drag that caused it to arc torward the pulsejet slightly....I did have the forward pulsejet mount and tail pass through the pulsejet pod and act as additional fin/stabilizer area. CG was well ahead of the front of the wing and the nose was heavy, I used two chutes and kept the nose and tail portions separate on recovery to reduce risk of slamming into each other.

I've also done a profile RC version made of depron that flies quite well on E-6 RC 24mm reloads, again I used a tail mounted motor, it's 39" long or so and weighs about 11 oz rtf...the profile and wingspan are close to scale, the wing location was moved back slightly to reduce the nose weight needed for proper CG. It's very simple to build and in the air looks the part.
There is no need on the profile model to shift balast the CG shift on mine is about 3/4" from slightly tail heavy boost to nose heavy glide but nothing I can't trim out with the full flying tail. Here's the rc version...

 

[Daddyisabar]

Just simple parachute recovery. The main instructions show pictures, for a 3fnc rocket build, the only part that is unique is the front page, and a few templates for the wings. Standard white body tubes, with plastic, looks like injection molded, nose, tail, and ramjet cones. I scanned all the instructions and measurements to PDF, but it is too large to attach

Noris instructions are so bad you don't need to read them anyway. The diagram is all that you need. Say you are a member of the model rocket flying master race and you don't need any fancy instructions because rocketry is in your blood, that you just naturally know how to do it. Build it, stuff enough stinking nose weight in it to bring the CG a pinky finger's length in front of the wing. Put the biggest, quickest motor you can find in it. Adjust the rod angle a bit because it is going to arc over towards that big pulse jet motor hanging off the back. Pray and walk back a long way per the code. Yell “Double Plus Heads Up!” if there is anyone brave enough to watch. Press the button and let it fly. Quickly put out any fires and attend to the wounded. Then go home and watch the opening to Operation Crossbow again and again.

 

[BEAR]

Didn't George Peppard and Sophia Loren die in that one back in the sixties? (1966?) I saw that movie and tried to figure out to build a buzz-bomb using a Jetex motor. Hard to get information on that aircraft back in the 60's using the library and with no computers or internet. Of course I was only about 12 or 13 and my dad would not have bought me a computer anyway.

 

[Daddyisabar]

Thanks for the photographs. It looks cool. It would be neat to see it fly. At Balls this year, (my first time going and with all the people that I met and all the things I saw, and me not being as good with names as I should be, I guess I might have been a little over-whelmed) one of the participants who was a really nice guy, flew a radio controlled Messerschmidt Me 163 Komet. It had about a 5 foot wing span as I recall, and flew it on a pretty hefty motor. It got up several hundred feet and then he flew by the flight line make some high speed gliding passes. It was a sight to see. I guess I was trying to imagine a way to launch a scale model of a "Buzz" Bomb and be able to do the same thing as the Komet glider. (Of course it would also be cool to everyone but the builder to have a radio controlled Mustang or Spitfire to fly along side and topple it.)

You need a model rocket powered Hawker Tempest to do the job. Specially tuned Spitfires of Mustangs - maybe on a nice Summer's night, just like the real thing. A rocket powered Gloster Meteor would do the trick. Radar guided AA guns would be nice but the Law might frown on that.

 

[Daddyisabar]

Didn't George Peppard and Sophia Loren die in that one back in the sixties? (1966?) I saw that movie and tried to figure out to build a buzz-bomb using a Jetex motor. Hard to get information on that aircraft back in the 60's using the library and with no computers or internet. Of course I was only about 12 or 13 and my dad would not have bought me a computer anyway.

Everyone seems to die in that movie except that mysterious German Lady test pilot who figures out what the problems are and how to fly the darn thing after all the men had failed. I bet she could tell us how to fly a model rocket Fieseler 103.

 

[aerostadt]

Everyone seems to die in that movie except that mysterious German Lady test pilot who figures out what the problems are and how to fly the darn thing after all the men had failed

Sophia Loren only lasts about 5 minutes in that movie. I guess that proves brain over braun. I would love to hear if that Noris kit really works.

 

[burkefj]

Hanna Reitsch was the pilot....she's gone now, so I'm one of the few alive who have successfully flown and landed a rocket boosted buzzbomb now Hee Hee.....operation crossbow has some great launch shots....

Frank

Everyone seems to die in that movie except that mysterious German Lady test pilot who figures out what the problems are and how to fly the darn thing after all the men had failed. I bet she could tell us how to fly a model rocket Fieseler 103.

 

[BEAR]

She also flew a helicopter inside an auditorium for the Fuhrer back in 1939. She was one of the very best test pilots the Nazis had.

 

[Daddyisabar]

She also flew a helicopter inside an auditorium for the Fuhrer back in 1939. She was one of the very best test pilots the Nazis had.

And a dedicated National Socialist to the very end! One of the Fuhrer's favorites and one of the last people to see him alive.

 

[Daddyisabar]

I've done a parachute recovered rocket version using a stuffer tube, basswood wings/tail and vacu-formed body and pulsejet, I did mount the motor in the rear of the fuse instead of trying to deal with offset thrust. The pulsejet was flow-through(hollow) and caused just a bit of offset drag that caused it to arc torward the pulsejet slightly....I did have the forward pulsejet mount and tail pass through the pulsejet pod and act as additional fin/stabilizer area. CG was well ahead of the front of the wing and the nose was heavy, I used two chutes and kept the nose and tail portions separate on recovery to reduce risk of slamming into each other.

I've also done a profile RC version made of depron that flies quite well on E-6 RC 24mm reloads, again I used a tail mounted motor, it's 39" long or so and weighs about 11 oz rtf...the profile and wingspan are close to scale, the wing location was moved back slightly to reduce the nose weight needed for proper CG. It's very simple to build and in the air looks the part.
There is no need on the profile model to shift balast the CG shift on mine is about 3/4" from slightly tail heavy boost to nose heavy glide but nothing I can't trim out with the full flying tail. Here's the rc version...

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Very cool.

 

[luke strawwalker]

And a dedicated National Socialist to the very end! One of the Fuhrer's favorites and one of the last people to see him alive.

Didn't she fly in to Berlin and land in the Chancellry garden or something to try to fly Hitler out before the Russians took Berlin, but he refused to go, and so she flew back out again?? I seem to remember reading that somewhere... or at least that was the plan, but Hitler wouldn't hear of it... he already planned to commit suicide the next day or so...

Later! OL JR

 

[BEAR]

That would be pretty accurate according to Wikipedia.