Also the Deepwater Horizon spill wasn’t originally treated as a crime scene.
More importantly, there was a clear need to be doing something Right Now to stem the flow of oil. Since the pipeline isn’t continuing to leak, it’s less of an emergency.Also the Deepwater Horizon spill wasn’t originally treated as a crime scene.
According to the Wikipedia page George linked, there are 3(!) Bond movies that use pigs:Wasn’t there a James Bond movie where someone crossed the border through a pipeline?
Sounds like The Living Daylights is the one you remember.Diamonds Are Forever, where Bond disabled a pig to escape from a pipeline; The Living Daylights, where a pig was modified to secretly transport a person through the Iron Curtain; and The World Is Not Enough, where a pig was used to carry and detonate a nuclear weapon in a pipeline.
To use a rocketry analogy to illustrate my reasoning: The safety distance for a G is not the same as the safety distance for an O. And at least in my less than qualified opinion those two don't look like they are the same magnitude of problem - particularly in terms of buoyancy reduction.Pat, that I don't understand or agree with. Deepwater Horizon had tons of energetic material (gas and petroleum) spewing out of that hole daily and they got ROV's and cameras down there in 72 hours.
Not only was there no rush to get immediate pictures, but whoever planted the explosives, may have left other explosives to cause problems for whoever tries to take pictures.To use a rocketry analogy to illustrate my reasoning: The safety distance for a G is not the same as the safety distance for an O. And at least in my less than qualified opinion those two don't look like they are the same magnitude of problem - particularly in terms of buoyancy reduction.
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This doesn't look too inviting for a conventional vessel (i.e. no not a hover craft).
Admittedly, they don't show the same thing (localized source vs. spread out effect on the surface).
There are other differences. Deepwater urgently needed an intervention wheres the Nordstream leak would stop by itself, so no rush to get immediate pictures.
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Plus we have to sanitize the site of evidence before the 'official' pictures are released.Not only was there no rush to get immediate pictures, but whoever planted the explosives, may have left other explosives to cause problems for whoever tries to take pictures.
Reinhard, Doth protest too much, now I suspect the Austrians might be behind this....To use a rocketry analogy to illustrate my reasoning: The safety distance for a G is not the same as the safety distance for an O. And at least in my less than qualified opinion those two don't look like they are the same magnitude of problem - particularly in terms of buoyancy reduction.
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This doesn't look too inviting for a conventional vessel (i.e. no not a hover craft).
Admittedly, they don't show the same thing (localized source vs. spread out effect on the surface).
There are other differences. Deepwater urgently needed an intervention wheres the Nordstream leak would stop by itself, so no rush to get immediate pictures.
Reinhard
The fire post destruction oxidizes the steel.One of the things I've noticed in photos and videos is how rusted the Russian tanks & other vehicles are. I can't imagine that they would get this rusty in only a couple of days.
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I'm guessing that the really rusty ones burned from the inside, burning off the paint and accelerating the rust on the outside. See, for example, the one right in the foreground that isn't rusty on the very forward end, but is at the back.One of the things I've noticed in photos and videos is how rusted the Russian tanks & other vehicles are. I can't imagine that they would get this rusty in only a couple of days.
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Exactly. If you've ever witnessed a car fire, it's rusty like, 4 seconds after the fire has been put out. Fire accelerates oxidation. Didn't think steel can burn? Well, it can!The fire post destruction oxidizes the steel.
Fire is oxidation.Exactly. If you've ever witnessed a car fire, it's rusty like, 4 seconds after the fire has been put out. Fire accelerates oxidation. Didn't think steel can burn? Well, it can!
As is welding, which is why you need to have shielding gas, or use the fluxed wire so your welds don't immediately rust.Fire is oxidation.
I think it was Portugal who attacked the pipe. No particular reason. Its just that no-one seems to have blamed them yet and I don’t want them to feel left out.
Which is how we cut steel with a torch.. .get the steel really hot (molten), then it it with a pure oxygen jet (that lever on a oxy-acetyline torch) it burns the steel away not just blows it away.Fire is oxidation.
In that case my vote is Sealand....I was thinking Luxembourg because they're tiny and nobody would ever suspect them.
I was thinking Luxembourg because they're tiny and nobody would ever suspect them.
I'm gonna channel Dan Brown and blame the Vatican with assistance of the Swiss Guards.In that case my vote is Sealand....
Sorry, but welding is not oxidation.As is welding, which is why you need to have shielding gas, or use the fluxed wire so your welds don't immediately rust.
I believe that was a wall thickness, possibly including concrete covering. Friction loss on a 5" ID pipe alone would be a deal killer after a couple of thousand feet.Please verify these pipes capable of carrying gas for entire nations are only five inches in diameter? That really caught my attention.
The articles I saw said that the pipes had 5" thick steel walls. Concrete would likely have been on top of that, though one can never underestimate a reporter's ability to get things wrong in an industry they're unfamiliar with.Please verify these pipes capable of carrying gas for entire nations are only five inches in diameter? That really caught my attention.
The Luxembourg Navy?I was thinking Luxembourg because they're tiny and nobody would ever suspect them.
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