The conspiracy people are just harmless goofballs, right?

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Back to serious stuff. Hope that doesn't go ova badly.

There was some news a couple of months ago about electrical substations being shot up in various places around the country. It turned out that the ones near us were a sort of hapless pair of burglars who used the power outage to rob a couple of stores. They had their phones on and with them as they shot up the substations, so they weren't exactly hard to find. At the time, the news was sort of split on whether the substation shootings that were believed to be idealogically motivated were from the left or right wing.

Yesterday, news broke that there was a pair of neo-Nazis that planned to destroy power substations to take down the electrical system in Baltimore. So that one at least was definitely a far right group.
 

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Just read that the latest conspiracy theory says that the hike in egg prices is due to the commercial egg producers conspiring with feed producers to alter their formulas so that the hens of backyard producers lay less eggs.
Industry experts say that it's because of the culling of millions of hens due to avian flu outbreaks, and rising production and labor costs.
While the latter makes more sense the former appeals to my "Ripley's Believe It Or Not" side.
Heh.
;)
To deviate a bit (work deviation..)

When I lived in Vancouver, the local "animal rights" group claimed to have injected poison into a few frozen turkeys at a local super market. (this was either around Christmas or thanksgiving.. don't remember). something about cruelty to animals, eat more tofu, it's a pagan ritual, etc..

They (the store) then promptly removed all the frozen turkeys, and got new stock in time..

So, their attempt to cull the need for turkeys actually made the situation worse since the store tossed alll the birds & ordered new ones.. 2x the intended stock. People wanted their turkeys!

It was then later speculated that the 'threat' was actually pulled off / started by the turkey producers association, to boost their sales..
 

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To deviate a bit (work deviation..)

When I lived in Vancouver, the local "animal rights" group claimed to have injected poison into a few frozen turkeys at a local super market. (this was either around Christmas or thanksgiving.. don't remember). something about cruelty to animals, eat more tofu, it's a pagan ritual, etc..

They (the store) then promptly removed all the frozen turkeys, and got new stock in time..

So, their attempt to cull the need for turkeys actually made the situation worse since the store tossed alll the birds & ordered new ones.. 2x the intended stock. People wanted their turkeys!

It was then later speculated that the 'threat' was actually pulled off / started by the turkey producers association, to boost their sales..
In that same line... A local "environmental" terrorism group active here in the late 90's and early 2000's did a bunch of stupid stuff. Like burning down homes under construction in subdivisions to protest logging (doubled the lumber demand for those houses just like the turkeys) and destroying what they said was a field of GMO poplars but was actually raspberries (excellent plant ID knowledge there, boys).

The most egregious directly affected us--they burned down a professor's office on campus, again purportedly because of GMO plant research. The prof was actually doing research into what genes encourage growth in cottonwoods to try to get a more quickly renewable replacement for paper pulp than logging conifer forests. The collateral damage was ridiculous too--they took the professor's pet snake out of the office to "rescue" it. Then they released the desert snake into a marsh. Another professor lost about 50,000 slides documenting plant recovery in the Mt. St. Helens blast zone. My wife's horticulture library was badly smoke damaged and was closed to the public for a few years. An awful lot of books were just lost.
 
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Everybody knows Elvis shot JFK not as previously thought on orders of the Illuminati with support from the CIA. It as actually to prevent him from implementing a plan to truly increase egg production.
You left out the most important part.
The eggs had nanobots in them to control the population.
They recruited Sly to do their dastardly deed.
Remember where he downs about a dozen raw eggs in Rocky.
Yup, yup, yup.
;)
 

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Government mind control​

Conspiracy: The CIA was testing LSD and other hallucinogenic drugs on Americans in a top-secret experiment on behavior modification.

The truth: The program was known as MK-ULTRA, and it was real. The CIA started by using volunteers; the novelist Ken Kesey was one notable subject. But the program heads soon began dosing people without their knowledge; MK-ULTRA left many victims permanently mentally disabled. Don’t miss these 11 controversial medical theories that are actually true.

I stole that off the inerwebs.
 

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Government mind control​

Conspiracy: The CIA was testing LSD and other hallucinogenic drugs on Americans in a top-secret experiment on behavior modification.

The truth: The program was known as MK-ULTRA, and it was real. The CIA started by using volunteers; the novelist Ken Kesey was one notable subject. But the program heads soon began dosing people without their knowledge; MK-ULTRA left many victims permanently mentally disabled. Don’t miss these 11 controversial medical theories that are actually true.

I stole that off the inerwebs.
to further that:



 

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This is an exciting one. New law proposed in Montana that would ban teaching of "scientific theory" in K-12 schools. Only "scientific fact" would be allowed.


I'll add my usual disclaimer that proposed laws aren't necessarily much to worry about, since anyone in the legislature can propose a law. Doesn't mean it will get anywhere close to passing. This one did get a hearing, so it's got at least a little traction.
 

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This is an exciting one. New law proposed in Montana that would ban teaching of "scientific theory" in K-12 schools. Only "scientific fact" would be allowed.


I'll add my usual disclaimer that proposed laws aren't necessarily much to worry about, since anyone in the legislature can propose a law. Doesn't mean it will get anywhere close to passing. This one did get a hearing, so it's got at least a little traction.
A soon as Florida gets wind of this they'll jump on board and ban it.
 

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This is an exciting one. New law proposed in Montana that would ban teaching of "scientific theory" in K-12 schools. Only "scientific fact" would be allowed.


I'll add my usual disclaimer that proposed laws aren't necessarily much to worry about, since anyone in the legislature can propose a law. Doesn't mean it will get anywhere close to passing. This one did get a hearing, so it's got at least a little traction.

Was the intent of that to prevent the teaching of theories associated with inteligent design? Or just anything that is not established as scientific fact.
 

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Was the intent of that to prevent the teaching of theories associated with inteligent design? Or just anything that is not established as scientific fact.
Like Steve said, most likely theory of evolution, but I don’t think it was spelled out.
 

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Like Steve said, most likely theory of evolution, but I don’t think it was spelled out.
They’re going to have a hell of a time with cell theory, germ theory, molecular theory, atomic theory, plate tectonics…

Although perhaps replacing scientific concepts with nebulous divine mechanics, where absolutely everything is attributed to a creative or destructive act of God, may absolutely be the point.
 

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They’re going to have a hell of a time with cell theory, germ theory, molecular theory, atomic theory, plate tectonics…

Although perhaps replacing scientific concepts with nebulous divine mechanics, where absolutely everything is attributed to a creative or destructive act of God, may absolutely be the point.
Bruce.

I really thought there was a remote possibility that a lawmaker might be trying to stamp out ignorance, rather than spread it.

I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Well, I should not have said he’s an idiot. I apologize for that.
 

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They’re going to have a hell of a time with cell theory, germ theory, molecular theory, atomic theory, plate tectonics…

Although perhaps replacing scientific concepts with nebulous divine mechanics, where absolutely everything is attributed to a creative or destructive act of God, may absolutely be the point.
Given that they were talking about amending the curriculum to allow instruction of scientific theory in AP science classes, I’m pretty sure it’s an anti-science education bill.
 

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I can’t wait to see what examples of malicious compliance would come of such a law.

Something like:

Fact: British naturalist Charles Darwin is best known for his theory of evolution through natural selection.

Fact: Humans have observed that species change over time prior to Darwin, and prior researchers had proposed explanations as to why, but Darwin’s work…
 

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