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Inspired by @smstachwick's Star Wars Rebels thread, I thought I would write a little bit about Legends as I read through some of these great old books. At least, I hope they're great. It has been 20-25 years since I read most of them. My memory is fuzzy on many plot details, though I remember overall what happens in most of them, and I remember which ones I really liked at the time and which ones I liked less. We'll see if they hold up to my memories of them. If you're curious, or a fellow curmudgeon who doesn't like Disney Star Wars, this is the thread for you! Feel free to comment on your memories or favorite moments in Star Wars Legends. I'm curious whether anyone else out there is as nerdy about it as I am.

First on the docket is arguably the trilogy of books that started it all. While Star Wars books that told stories beyond the movies existed from the very beginning in books like Splinter of the Mind's Eye and the Han Solo Adventures, Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy kicked off a continuity that took the stories of Luke, Han, Leia, and the rest on adventures beyond Return of the Jedi, through the collapse of the Empire, the building of the New Republic, and the founding of a new Jedi Order under Luke. While the Thrawn trilogy doesn't come first in the post-RotJ* continuity**, it was published first and introduces mainstay Legends characters like Gilad Pellaeon, Mara Jade, Jacen*** and Jaina Solo, and Grand Admiral Thrawn himself.

*It's important to make this distinction because Legends isn't only post-RotJ stories - there are legends books taking place at every time period from 25,000 years before the movies to during the movies to 100+ years after the movies. If you want "first in the timeline," that would probably be the "Dawn of the Jedi" comic series.

**The distinction of first in the post-RotJ timeline goes to "The Truce at Bakura," which actually begins with the characters waking up on Endor after the victory party.

***Pronounced the same as "Jason."

Thrawn Trilogy, Book 1: Heir to the Empire

Chapter 1

The scene is set aboard the Imperial Star Destroyer Chimera. Captain Gilad Pellaeon was a veteran of the Battle of Endor, now five years ago. After scolding a young officer for the improper manner in which he delivered a message to him, he bitterly reminisces about the loss of the Executor and a huge number of promising junior officers and experienced veterans along with it, while he is stuck with these young kids who have no experience. He is less sorry about the loss of the Death Star, and he and many Imperial officers considered it a vanity project of the Emperor's that they didn't want. Regardless, after the Battle of Endor, the Empire was unable to regain the initiative in the war and has been steadily chipped away until it is now only a quarter of its size at its height, and the planets they do still hold are largely backwaters, the core worlds having largely fallen into the hands of the Rebellion.

The message Pellaeon received states that several scout ships have returned from a mission to Obroa-Skai, with at least a partial data dump from their planetary libraries. It may only be partial because the scouts had to hastily retreat as they were caught and pursued. He heads to Grand Admiral Thrawn's chambers with the message, and is frisked by Thrawn's Noghri bodyguard, Rukh. Upon being admitted to Thrawn's chamber, he is greeted by artwork from Obora-Skai being projected onto the walls, and the blue-skinned Grand Admiral himself. Pellaeon informs Thrawn of the completion of the scouting mission, and Thrawn, noticing Pellaeon's interest in the artwork, expounds on his view that a people can be understood through their art, and understanding a people allows you to best understand how to defeat them. This is quickly demonstrated as the pursuers of the scouts arrive at their location, and rather than running, Thrawn, after confirming who the commander of the attackers is, orders a counterattack maneuver that he knows the commander's race finds psychologically disruptive. Thrawn handily defeats the attacker, and Pellaeon reflects on how Thrawn is probably the Empire's best hope.

The chapter ends with Thrawn having analyzed the data returned by the scouts, and in the records of Obora-Skai, he has found the location of a planet called Myrkr, which was avoided by the Old Republic and the Jedi, despite it being well within their borders. On that planet, says Thrawn, is a piece of "the only puzzle worth solving" - that of defeating the Rebellion.

Thoughts -

Not that much to say here as it is largely an introduction. Captain Pellaeon is our PoV character for the Imperial side of the story, and Grand Admiral Thrawn is a military genius who may be the Empire's last, best hope of recovering their former glory, and his schtick is that he studies the artwork and psychology of his enemies to best understand them and figure out how to defeat them.

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This books also wastes no time in telling the reader the situation of the galaxy at large - the New Republic/Rebellion has seen great success after the Battle of Endor and is the major player now, and the Empire is an underdog looking to make a comeback.

The Noghri are a new race not in the movies. The books, not constrained by movie costume budgets, introduce a good number of new species to the Star Wars universe. The Noghri are small, reptilian creatures that can be thought of as a race of ninjas, who make excellent assassins and bodyguards.

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Despite the fact that the New Republic has been established for a couple of years at this point, I like how Imperial characters refuse to acknowledge it by continuing to call them the Rebellion.

Continuity oopsie - at one point, it is said that Pellaeon has been in the Imperial Fleet for fifty years, when the Empire itself was founded only about thirty years ago at this point. However, this is easily forgivable as this book was published eight years before the Phantom Menace kicked off the prequel trilogy and firmly established how long the Empire had existed.
 
Chapter 2 -

Chapter 2 is divided into three scenes for each of our three main heroes.

Luke Skywalker is living in a suite in the Imperial Palace on Coruscant, after having argued against the fledgling New Republic setting up their government there. He has one last vision of Obi-Wan Kenobi, who gives Luke a final farewell, as he can't remain any longer with a foot still in the realm of the living. He will be moving on fully to the other side and Luke will not see him again. Luke laments that this is the third time he has been orphaned - The first being when Owen and Beru were murdered, and the second being when his real father sacrificed his life to save him. C-3PO arrives, asking Luke if there is anything he can do to help him, having apparently been sent by Leia, living in a room nearby and sensing Luke's emotional distress. In this scene, as Luke senses the people around him, we also get our first mention that Leia is pregnant with twins. After reminsicing about Obi-Wan Kenobi and the lessons he has learned, Luke sends C-3PO back to Leia, with the message, "I'm alright, and I love you."

Leia Organa Solo, afterward, dismisses C-3PO while drinking a glass of warm milk to calm her presumably pregnancy-related stomach troubles. Seeing that her light was on, Leia's attendant, Winter, arrives and asks if Leia needs anything, rather similar to the previous scene with Luke. Winter, who is introduced as having served Leia since they were children on Alderaan, is described as having a regal bearing that caused strangers to mistake her for Leia, and having an eidetic memory that allows her to repeat anything she has ever heard. Leia expresses annoyance that Han is absent, having picked up yet another contract mission for the New Republic, but at once feels guilty for feeling that way because her duties keep them apart even when Han is around. However, only Leia can perform these duties as she is one of the few people in the former Rebellion with any actual experience in government.

During all this, Han Solo has made his way to Tatooine, back to a familiar cantina in Mos Eisley, where he contacts an old smuggler friend of his named Dravis. Han is there for a simple reason - the New Republic needs traders with ships to keep trade running during these times of transition, and the smugglers of the galaxy have ships. Han invites the smugglers to go legit, with a promise that, for a while at least, there will be no tariffs cutting into their profits to make smuggling seem like a better option. Dravis is non-comittal, not as convinced that the New Republic is going to remain in its strong position where it can keep this offer going - after all, rumor has it they just lost an entire task force to a military genius that has risen to power in what's left of the Empire, but he trusts Han enough to look into it and pass the message along to other smugglers. Dravis does humorously give Han some grief over having gone respectable.

Thoughts -

The rules about Force ghosts have always been fuzzy, but Obi-Wan's farewell seems like a literary way to solve two possible story problems - the first being the more general "Why don't the ancient Jedi just appear to advise the current ones?" and the second being the more specific "Why doesn't Obi-Wan just appear and tell Luke how to set up his new Jedi Order?"

One thing seen throughout the Legends books is that Leia is indeed strong in the Force, but her roles in running the New Republic (She eventually becomes Head of State after the death of Mon Mothma) leave little time for proper Jedi training. She can do some small things and sense people and their feelings, but never becomes anywhere near as skilled as Luke, and I honestly can't remember if she ever has her own lightsaber. Leia lamenting constantly being busy with politics is a bit of a running theme throughout the post-RotJ timeline, but what she does is necessary and her sacrifice of her personal life to do what must be done is admirable.

I enjoyed how despite how things have changed around them, the characters are still the characters. Luke is a Jedi, but as the first of the new Jedi, as Obi-Wan says in some of his last words to Luke, he has a lot to learn about how to set up the new Jedi Order and make it strong. Despite his victory over the Emperor, he is still learning and growing and it's a joy to follow him in it. Leia is still the leader she always has been, except now she has to lead a real government rather than a rebellion, and Han is off doing roguish things and making use of his old underworld contacts, while still helping out his friends, and now family in the case of Leia.

Leia's married name is indeed Leia Organa Solo. The details of Han and Leia's marriage are covered in a book called "The Courtship of Princess Leia" which I remember being one of the weirder ones. I think Leia received a marriage offer from some noble from a nation that was considering joining the Republic, and Han got jealous and ended up spiriting her away to a remote world where there was also some old Jedi stuff that Luke was after, and hijinks ensue.
 
I was eleven when Star Wars came out, the perfect target demographic. I had the paperback novelization and Splinter of the Minds Eye in hardback. Couldn't get enough Star Wars. Went to Penrose to get Estes R2-D2 and X Wing, Tie Fighter not yet available.

Wanted all the expensive Marx cookie jars but my parents would only buy R2-D2. I had my hands on Darth Vader and a C3PO! All very collectable now, especially Darth and major big bucks for C3PO. Those were the days!
 
I was eleven when Star Wars came out, the perfect target demographic. I had the paperback novelization and Splinter of the Minds Eye in hardback. Couldn't get enough Star Wars. Went to Penrose to get Estes R2-D2 and X Wing, Tie Fighter not yet available.

Wanted all the expensive Marx cookie jars but my parents would only buy R2-D2. I had my hands on Darth Vader and a C3PO! All very collectable now, especially Darth and major big bucks for C3PO. Those were the days!
Nice! I was a 90's kid. My first experience with Star Wars was the hype surrounding the special editions. My parents wouldn't take me to see them, but they did buy me the last VHS release of the theatrical versions of the movies, and I was hooked immediately. When we lived in Florida, the public library there had a dedicated sci-fi section, and every time we went, I would scour the shelves for new Star Wars books. That's how I read most of the old EU, and I actually started reading before the prequels came out.

Probably the most antique things I still have at this point are a bunch of the original Lego Star Wars sets from the 90's, back when an X-Wing was only $30 and $50 got you a big set with both a Y-Wing and Darth Vader's TIE Fighter.
 
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Chapter 3 -

I forgot to mention an important detail from Chapter 2. Han asks Dravis at one point about who is the top dog in the underworld with Jabba the Hutt gone, and Dravis replies "Talon Karrde." This surprises Han, because as far as he knows, Karrde's organization isn't even in the top ten. When you think about it though, if you were a crime boss, would you rather be a target for all to see, or stay under the radar of your rivals and any government looking to nab you? Karrde must be good at what he does.

It's well and good that this gets mentioned, as Talon Karrde is our PoV character for chapter 3. He has apparently set up shop on Myrkr, and has invited a new member of his organization to dinner - a woman named Mara Jade. He has noticed her exceptional ability despite her being with his organization for only five and a half months, and has invited her to this upscale dinner to offer to groom her to be his second-in-command. Mara is hesitant and suspicious, and begins warning Karrde that if he gives her such power, she will use it to make changes, when they are interrupted by one of Karrde's men reporting that the Star Destroyer Chimera has just dropped out of hyperspace over the planet, and two shuttles are heading down to the surface.

Karrde, sensing an opportunity to ingratiate himself to the Empire, hails the Star Destroyer and asks if they need any assistance. Pellaeon replies that they don't, and Karrde responds that if they are after the planet's native ysalamiri, they require specialized handling to avoid kiling them that his men can show the Imperials. Reluctantly, Pellaeon asks what Karrde wants for his knowledge, and Karrde says, "nothing at all, just being neighborly," to which Pellaeon replies, "your generosity will be remembered," presumably what Karrde was looking for during this exchange.

Returning to his dinner with Mara, Karrde muses on what the Empire wants the ysalimiri for, saying that it seems like overkill to deal with one Jedi. The book remains cagey about what ysalamiri actually do while Karrde speculates that maybe the Empire found Darth Vader. Mara Jade immediately responds that Darth Vader died aboard the Death Star along with the Emperor. Karrde replies, "well, you know, that's the official story but..." and Mara Jade cuts him off, stating firmly that Vader is dead. Karrde drops the subject, asking Mara to go on with what she was saying about needed changes to the organization. As she speaks, he notes that her recommendations are insightful and would be beneficial, while musing to himself that over the past months, he has made note of subjects that draw out emotional responses from her. The pre-Battle of Endor empire makes her nostalgic, and any mention of Luke Skywalker enrages her.

Thoughts -

This is the first appearance of Mara Jade, who is very popular among Legends fans (myself included) and becomes one of the most important non-movie characters of the Legends timeline. I'm honestly surprised that Disney hasn't brought back some incarnation of her, given how they love to put their girl power in their Star Wars.

Ysalamiri are lizard-like creatures with an interesting property that will be revealed later. I actually remember them well.

Ysalamiri project an anti-Force bubble around them, cutting off from the Force anything within the bubble. Stick one near a Jedi's jail cell and he's no more likely to break out than an average person. Carry one into an encounter with a Jedi, and you will be immune to the Jedi's powers. It evolved as a consequence of their native predators, the vornskr, hunting using the Force.

If I remember correctly, Talon Karrde is more of a lovable rogue than an actual villain. It has been a long time though, so I may be remembering incorrectly.
 
Chapter 4 -

The Chimera has travelled to another planet whose location was recovered from the archive of Obroa-Skai: Wayland. On the way, technicians aboard the Star Destroyer have come up with a backpack that allows one to safely carry a ysalamiri on their person.

Chimera's sensors don't pick up any technology on the planet better than a bow and arrow, but Thrawn insists that the emperor had a hidden storehouse on this planet, along with a guardian to watch over it that Thrawn presumes is a dark Jedi. It is not hard to find the storehouse as it was very obviously built into a mountainside. Thrawn, Pellaeon, and a small retinue land in a shuttle near a primitive village, and Thrawn uses a megaphone to demand they be taken to the Guardian of the Mountain. An arrow shot from a nearby house is deflected by Thrawn's armor and the shooter is dealt with harshly. After repeating his demand, the Imperials are met by an old man who promises to take them to the Guardian. He leads them into a primitive palace where they are shown to a room with a coffin - the Guardian is dead, and "so are you" as the old man raises his hands to blast Thrawn and Pellaeon with force lightning... only to have the lightning dissipate into nothing a few feet from their faces. The ysalamiri project an anti-Force bubble that makes the men carrying them immune to Force powers.

Thrawn introduces the old man as being Jedi Master Joruus C'Boath, who supposedly left long ago on an extragalactic expedition called Outbound Flight - right before the outbreak of the Clone Wars. Thrawn pushes to be allowed to talk to him, and C'Boath finally agrees. Thrawn explains that despite not being a Force-sensitive, he has recognized that the reason things have been falling apart is because the emperor subtley used the Force on the minds of all Imperials, giving them a certain drive and indomitable spirit. Thrawn wants C'Boath to bring this ability back to the Empire, at least in a limited way, as he recognizes that total reliance on it is a significant weakness. C'Boath is unenthused about the proposition, saying that he already has everything he wants ruling over this primitive village, so why should he join Thrawn? C'Boath is eventually promised Jedi students to rule over, in the form of Luke, Leia, and Leia's twin children.

Thrawn and Pellaeon recover the galaxy's first practical, large-scale cloaking device from the storehouse, as well as a "small, insignificant bit of technology" that the book is cagey about at this point. Pellaeon tells Thrawn that he doesn't like the idea of working with Jorus C'Boath, as he doesn't seem entirely sane, to which Thrawn responds that of course he's not entirely sane, but he's not Jorus C'Boath either - he's a clone, Joruus C'Boath. He knows because he was secretly sent by then-Senator Palpatine to destroy Outbound Flight before it left the galaxy. He says it's a risk to use him, but the risk is worth it.

Chapter 5 -

Han Solo delivers his report on what happened when contacting Dravis to Admiral Ackbar, Borsk Fey'lya, and Mon Mothma. There is much disgruntlement from Ackbar and Fey'lya until Mon Mothma ends the meeting by saying that what the smugglers need is to see the New Republic pass trade laws and start functioning again in order to have confidence that going legit with them is a good deal.

Leia needs to head to Bimmisaari to convince the people there to join the New Republic, and they have a love of heroes, so Luke is asked to accompany her. Han will be flying them there aboard the Millenium Falcon.

Thoughts -

Not much to say here except that introductions are out of the way and the story has hit the ground running. There are 400 pages to go, and so much has already happened with character introductions and worldbuilding neatly and organically packed in.

Also, hoo boy, Borsk Fey'lya. I remember that guy well. He's a Bothan politician, and it was his men who got hold of the second Death Star plans. Remember from RotJ? Mon Mothma says "Many Bothans died to bring us this information." And Borsk Fey'lya never lets anyone forget it. He's a mainstay of the Legends timeline, and he is one of those characters that we love to hate.
 
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