Snap Ring Hardware

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Is there a call for good source for Snap ring Hardware

Poll closed Dec 16, 2019.
  1. yes

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  2. no

    8 vote(s)
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  3. dos not effect me

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  1. Dec 11, 2019 #31

    Andrew_ASC

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    And that’s if your lucky enough to find the shop willing to take your specific high precision order that is low volume. Some shops won’t even mess with rocketry stuff hobby wise because they have bigger customers doing higher volume orders on looser tolerances. The cool thing I miss of university was a decent shop with CNC tooling and an attitude of bring your materials and just make whatever. I’ve dealt with paying other shops to do certain tasks and they weren’t exactly happy about rocketry projects due to how little money they’d make versus the time in machining it would take to do the job.
     
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  2. Dec 11, 2019 #32

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    Ooohhh, those are purty... :wos_love:
     
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  3. Dec 11, 2019 #33

    MikeyDSlagle

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    It's a guy already in the business and he has done some work for me in the past. I was gonna contact you too Mike but I decided to hold off. Didn't want to waste anyone's time until I have the time, space, and funds to move forward with it. But I may shoot you an email just to see what you think.
     
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  4. Dec 11, 2019 #34

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    And I got the low down from Scott. There's two sides for every story. Quite frankly, I think this community is way too small to be hanging on to grudges and they just need to settle their differences and bury the hatches - preferably not in each others back. You don't have to like someone to do good business with them. I think we'd all benefit if they'd work something out.

    And FWIW...I do not care about anodizing - at all. If it needs to be on there to protect the metal then that's fine. Call me weird but I have never seen the need to make motor cases pretty when you can't even see them on the pad. No offense to those that like pretty cases though its just something that adds no value in my eyes.

    -Dave
     
  5. Dec 11, 2019 #35

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    I just use all the vendors I want and ignore the bicker banter side taking bullsh*t. To be honest I think the guy not using is missing out because other vendors will ship Loki motors to you.
     
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  6. Dec 11, 2019 #36

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    My main issue is that I just need a local vendor that supplies reloads for the hardware I own. So, for 95% of the launches I attend, there is only one vendor, Tim & Jackie. I don't have the kind of money to purchase reloads in sufficient quantities to offset Hazmat fees. Hence the need for a local vendor.
     
  7. Dec 11, 2019 #37

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    The vast majority of Loki 38mm are hazmat-free. All the Gs, most of the Hs and Is and even two Js.

    I have AT, CTI, AMW and Loki and I fly my snapring cases more often than anything else. Snapring is almost as easy as CTI to assemble but flexible enough for EX. I'd like to see more certified options for snapring cases.
     
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  8. Dec 11, 2019 #38

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    That's why my standard finish is just clear anodizing. I only do dye jobs by special order. Anodized hardware does clean up better and won't get those fine scratches just from sliding in and out of a motor mount, so it does add value. And I don't charge extra for clear anodizing, so there's that.
     
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  9. Dec 11, 2019 #39

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    I didn't realize those cases were so versatile and have that many reloads available without the hazmat fees. For me, those sound like a better investment than other brands, especially if I can use them for Ex motors in the future.
     
  10. Dec 11, 2019 #40

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    As Mike mentioned, anodizing creates a harder surface on the aluminum for longer life. As the case increases in length, though, anodizing is more costly. For a 6" dia or 8" dia motor, it isn't practical. But, most special projects using big casings are single use. Plus, the bare aluminum is better for case-bonded liners.

    I make 4", 6" and 8" motor hardware using bolted closures, not snap rings. I enjoy making them, but they would be too expensive if I actually charged for my time, or if I sent the work out to a machine shop.
     
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  11. Dec 11, 2019 #41

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    I quit the business for several reasons, price was only one factor, I just got tired of the rat race and decided to retire and just make things for myself and friends, attend more launches and fly more rockets.

    I was getting low on all sizes of liners and due to minimum order sizes it was going to be $4000 to restock and that would last several years.

    I had a machinist making the 48" casings and his last quote to me was $400, the first casings he made for me he charged $100.

    I did make some extra sizes of 54mm cases, 2,3,4,5,6 grain and extra long one at 35"

    And this cute set of 29mm, 2,4,6,and 8 grain
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    I do have a bunch of nozzles left

    [​IMG]
     
  12. Dec 11, 2019 #42

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    never going to happen
     
  13. Dec 11, 2019 #43

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    Huh?

    I'm just expressing an opinion on a internet forum. Take it or leave it I don't care.
     
  14. Dec 12, 2019 #44

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    So Tim, are ya gonna start selling your own flavor of snap ring hardware? If yes, then I'm in for a 38/600ish case, a 54/800~1200ish case, and one or two midrange'ish cases.

    Just say'n.
     
  15. Dec 12, 2019 #45

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    Hey man I’d rather Tim start carrying Loki products. If he carries it I’ll buy it from him.
     
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  16. Dec 12, 2019 #46

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    You can and you have......
     
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  17. Dec 12, 2019 #47

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    Much appreciated!
     
  18. Dec 12, 2019 #48

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    Dave, we talked about this. We can't be seen agreeing in public. Hey, get the right anodize and it might make it easier to find the rocket if the motor gets kicked.

    If I had a Loki dealer near me and I could buy without shipping/hazmat, the motors would likely supplant CTI for me in everything except upper stages.
     
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