# Skidmark at Whitakers Fund!

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#### jetra2

##### Well-Known Member
Hi all,

I'd like all of those who will be attending the TRF meet at Whitakers to consider donating to a fund that would buy one of the new AMW Skidmark motors to fly in *someone's* rocket! The current prices of the new Skidmarks are as follows:
• 54-2550 K1000 - $160 • 75-7600 M2200 -$400

I think it would be easy for all of us as a group to all donate $10-$15 for the K reload, and someone has to have a 54-2550 case we can use!

Thanks,
Jason

#### jetra2

##### Well-Known Member
Ok...so we currently have a 1-2 vote against donating a little bit of money to seeing a Skidmark fly.

Lemme up the ante a little bit:

Jason

Thanks all!

Jason

#### DPatell

##### Well-Known Member
That Expeditor will go really high and fast...

is it glassed? It'd better be lol

#### Ryan S.

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wow way to go behind my back, O well at least I wont have to drive now, the expeditor should be a great shred

#### n3tjm

##### Papa Elf
Ouch. Ryan, I don't think they went behind your back. He willbe at the launch... you maybe. So if you go to the launch, MI it is . If not, we have a back up plan. If you both want to fly a K1000... we'll borrow some dueling pistols (or buy two K's).

#### Rocketmaniac

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guys,

I did not intend to start anything by saying that I would be the launch and would have my Expeditor with me.........

Ryan, bring your MI and fly the K motor......... My Expeditor can fly on something else, it doesn't have to be the "K" motor.............

I repeat, I did not intend to step on anyone's toes and if I did..... I am sorry...........

#### n3tjm

##### Papa Elf
Yes I figured you weren't stepping on anybodies toes. That is what we love about English... you write it to say one thing, and another person reads it as another thing. Since this is not RMR, I read everything with a positive tone

#### PAH

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Gentleman,

I can only hope this is read with a positive tone as n3tjm does but depending on ground and wind conditions, sparky motors may not be allowed by the attending Prefects. The Whitakers launch field is a cow pasture full of tall dry grass this time of year. Normally a collective decision of the attending Prefects the day of the launch determines if sparky motors are allowed. We normally only come across this issue during EX launches. We don't want to BBQ the cows during a launch. Please don't get me wrong, I would love to see this idea go forward.
I'll be at the EX launch next weekend (April 17 & 18) and will be able to look at ground conditions then.

Paul Hoetjes

#### Ryan S.

##### Well-Known Member
Originally posted by Rocketmaniac
guys,

I did not intend to start anything by saying that I would be the launch and would have my Expeditor with me.........

Ryan, bring your MI and fly the K motor......... My Expeditor can fly on something else, it doesn't have to be the "K" motor.............

I repeat, I did not intend to step on anyone's toes and if I did..... I am sorry...........

HAHHA its okay man dont be sorry, I am not serious.

#### marvSRG

##### Well-Known Member
Doubt I'll make it up this year, but man, this sounds cool! Jetra, I noticed that was Derek Devilles V2 you posted a pic of, and I saw that vid, too. Very nice Is that the finalized soon to be certified version of skidmark?

#### PAH

##### Well-Known Member
Hey everyone,
Just got back from the Whitakers WELD launch and ground conditions were very good. A fair amount of rain in that area had greened things up a bit so we allowed sparky motors this weekend.
At the moment the 54-2550 (K1000) or the 75-7600 (M2200) Skidmark motors are not certified with Tripoli, thus can only be launched at EX launches. AMW website shows certifications pending in April. A call is being placed to TMT to acquire the official certification status of these motors. I'll post the status when I hear something.

Paul Hoetjes

#### n3tjm

##### Papa Elf
The two Skidmarks mentioned have been certified by the National Association of Rocketry, so they should be honored at TRA launches.

#### PAH

##### Well-Known Member
Doug,

I looked at both the Tripoli and NAR websites and neither site lists those motors as certified. However it's been months since either the Tripoli or NAR certified motor list has been updated. As of today 4/18/2004, AMW has updated their website showing those two motors as Certified and Available. Yesterday they were listed as Certifications Pending in April. That is why a call is being placed to TMT to verify the certification status of those motors.

Paul

#### jrogers

##### Well-Known Member
Recieved from TRA list server

To All!!

Just got word from NAR Standards & Testing they have approved the
following Animal Motor Works motors for general use.

J480BB, 1161 T/NS, 543 Max, 2.49 sec, 54-1050

J400RR, 1094 T/NS, 469 Max, 2.66 sec, 54-1050

K700BB, 1607 T/NS, 847 Max, 2.24 sec, 54-1400

K560RR, 1473 T/NS, 625 Max, 2.62 sec, 54-1400

K800BB, 1932 T/NS, 955 Max, 2.38 sec, 54-1750

K650RR, 1821 T/NS, 751 Max, 2.77 sec, 54-1750

L1100RR-PS, 2576 T/NS, 1340 Max, 2.35 sec, 54-2550

L1300BB-PS, 2672 T/NS, 1586 Max, 2.06 sec, 54-2550

K1000SM-PS, 2077 T/NS, 1426 Max, 2.18 sec, 54-2550

K365RR, 1675 T/NS, 565 Max, 4.51 sec, 75-1700

K605RR, 2401 T/NS, 737 Max, 3.95 sec, 75-2500

L1080BB, 3686 T/NS, 1257 Max, 3.39 sec, 75-3500

L900RR, 3441 T/NS, 1173 Max, 3.79 sec, 75-3500

M1900BB-PS, 6040 T/NS, 2324 Max, 3.23 sec, 75-6000

M1480RR-PS, 5730 T/NS, 1814 Max, 3.85 sec, 75-6000

M2200SM-PS, 6275 T/NS, 2979 Max, 3.11 sec, 75-7600

You'll notice the whole herd of Red Rhino in this lot so it's finally on
the loose!

More intriguing is the K1000SM-PS, someone let an "incontinent" squirrel
in the door as well!

We are working with Paul Robinson to get all of the test data for
conversion into WRASP. These motors will also be posted this weekend on
the TMT website.

Cheers to all and happy flying!

Paul Holmes, TMT

#### Ryan S.

##### Well-Known Member
so you guys gonna fly this thing?