On a related note...I am not going to buy a WW2 V2 simply because of what it represents.
Without the WWII V-2, there would have been no Wernher Von Braun . . . Without Von Braun, there would have been no U.S. Manned Space Program .
Dave F.
On a related note...I am not going to buy a WW2 V2 simply because of what it represents.
With all due respect.... what the V2 represents for a myriad of folks in the UK, and the WWII allies ... is a weapon that killed their family members / mates / friends.
I recall a WWII vet lecturing a young lakeroadster back in the 1980's about how he would never buy a Japanese vehicle. I couldn't relate.... well until a few years later... I visited the Arizona memorial in Oahu. At that time you watched a video about the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor and then took a boat over to the Arizona memorial.
I'll take mine in yellow and black."As the American interrogators moved into Germany close behind —and sometimes ahead of—the armies, they found the German rocket scientists more than willing to surrender (and get new jobs) and more than anxious to tell everything they knew. Not only did the Americans get almost all the top scientists — they got everything else that wasn't nailed down, including the complete Peenemunde archives (which von Braun's crew had thoughtfully deposited in an abandoned mine) and all the A-4 rockets, complete or otherwise. And, red-blooded young Americans all, with larceny in their hearts, they liberated every milligram of hydrazine hydrate and high-strength hydrogen peroxide that they could find in Germany. Plus, naturally, the special aluminum tank cars built to carry the latter. Everything was promptly shipped to the United States.
"These steps were obvious." - John D. Clark, Ignition!
Without the WWII V-2, there would have been no Wernher Von Braun . . . Without Von Braun, there would have been no U.S. Manned Space Program .
Dave F.
This was like my grandfather. Nothing Japanese. He was drafted fairly late as he worked at Higgins here in New Orleans before he was sent to the Pacific.With all due respect.... what the V2 represents for a myriad of folks in the UK, and the WWII allies ... is a weapon that killed their family members / mates / friends.
I recall a WWII vet lecturing a young lakeroadster back in the 1980's about how he would never buy a Japanese vehicle. I couldn't relate.... well until a few years later... I visited the Arizona memorial in Oahu. At that time you watched a video about the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor and then took a boat over to the Arizona memorial.
If I had been home... I would have taken a hammer and beat the mirrors off my Toyota Tacoma.
I learned right there it's something you have to experience yourself.
While I have respect for the technology of the German and Japanese war machine.... I to this day, due to my deep respect for the allied forces, will never build a replica of anything that is based on the axis technology, technology specifically built to kill allied forces.
Um, where does one draw the line? Ever taken a Bayer Aspirin? If so, you do realize they made the Zyklon B used in gas chambers all over Europe right?
The V2 was the first man made object in space. The paperclip scientists built the US space program and US ballistic missile program.Exactly what I said.
Supply/demand. If they think a kit is going to sell and make a profit then that's the kit they should be making regardless of what the country of origin is.
On a related note...I am not going to buy a WW2 V2 simply because of what it represents. Would I care if Estes made a WW2 V2? At this point probably not - but if it did bother me then I wouldn't buy any of Estes kits. Called vote with your wallet.
Exactly what I said.
Supply/demand. If they think a kit is going to sell and make a profit then that's the kit they should be making regardless of what the country of origin is.
On a related note...I am not going to buy a WW2 V2 simply because of what it represents. Would I care if Estes made a WW2 V2? At this point probably not - but if it did bother me then I wouldn't buy any of Estes kits. Called vote with your wallet.
Wherever the heck I want. It's going to be different for everyone.Um, where does one draw the line?
Unless Estes transitions to 3D printed parts as well.
I personally think they would make a shedload of money selling clear fin cans and moulded transitions. Dan Average isn't going to 3D print a small transition, unless they have a 3D printer on hand and the skills to drive it, if there is a chance to buy one off the shelf with your next Estes order.
Just my $0.02 worth. YMMV, as ever.
Exactly, so let people make their "vote with wallet choices" as they wish and leave them be.Wherever the heck I want. It's going to be different for everyone.
It's economically viable if it's used to replace expensive balsa parts. I think this was the driver for Rocketarium and erockets switching more to 3D printed parts.I guess Estes could 3D print small batches and sell those parts for a higher price. But given how easy it is for the individual to 3D print these days, I doubt Estes would view that as an economically viable option.
What current kit is produced by Estes that still uses balsa parts for things like nose cones or transitions? Or are you saying Estes can "bring back" parts from OOP kits that used to be made out of balsa, but can now be made from 3D printing?It's economically viable if it's used to replace expensive balsa parts.
Exactly this.The only thing I can think of is that selling individually parts like that would exponentially increase the inventory/parts/financial management responsibilities of its employees and e-commerce systems, so it's not worth the hassle for Estes.
Orange Bullet.What current kit is produced by Estes that still uses balsa parts for things like nose cones
We have to acknowledge that people can change. The Britain we fought with in WWII was our sworn enemy until the mid-1800's. The young people in Germany today reject the ideals of their grandparents who fought with Hitler. I understand how some people live in the past because of the trauma they experienced. But life moves on, people can change and we have to find a way to deal with it.I was born in 1965. I am not fighting World War 2. My dad was of Jewish heritage, but that didn't seem to stop him from buying a VW Beetle, which is a car I grew up in and have fond memories of. Similarly, if Estes wants to sell an scale model of a North Korean or Iranian rocket, I'm all for it as long as those designs are interesting or have some feature that makes the model unique. For example, Rocketarium sells a Korean Sounding Rocket, the KSR-420S, which I bought and built because it's a 3-motor cluster, which I purchased to get comfortable flying clusters -- I haven't flown it yet, as soon as things warm up a bit.
Why is the layering a problem? Can't it be sanded smooth?The issue, as I see it, with current 3D printed parts for LPR applications is the layering. Maybe not an issue for iterative prototyping, but definitely a drawback for someone trying to build a 1/100, or finer, scale model.
I did a 1/100 scale Iraqi Al Samoud II just to play around with and it would be difficult to make that model look right any closer than 10ft.
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