# Semroc Saturn 1B

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#### EXPjawa

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I saw today that eRockets finally has the Semroc Saturn 1B available to ship. I'm pretty sure that the kit has been shown on their site since they first took over the Semroc brand last year. I've been checking regularly to see when it would actually become available, and in the process have watched a bunch of other kits trickle in, some get removed, then later reappear. I bought their Little Joe II kit last year, taking it as a sign that the Saturn would be close behind, but it wasn't the case. In recent weeks, the (re) addition of several SLS kits - including the SLS Laser-X - had me paying closer attention again. I've checked back at their site nearly daily in the last month or two, and until today, the Saturn 1B was the only kit not shown in stock. Now it shows 31 available! Now, if Estes follows through with their reissued Saturn V, July will be a big month indeed. Big for scale modelers, and potentially terrible for their wallets...

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I think on that other forum I heard the Mars Lander might even be coming back. With the Cosmodrome Vostok coming back and all the other scale and fantasy kits coming out it looks like happy days are here again

#### Flyfalcons

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It sounds from John Boren that Estes has another scale kit coming out this year as well. I'm looking forward to it, with some luck it'll be a reintroduction of their 1/100 Saturn IB. That Semroc is a great size though, man I need more money and time for all these cool projects.

#### Buzzard

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EXPjawa asked: "Another is the SLS Brighton - why is that $100, when the SLS Laser-X is$80?"

Part of the cost issue has to do with the price of balsa wood. The SLS Brighton has a very large nose cone compared to the SLS Laser-X. Prices for good balsa
have skyrocketed (pun intended). The Brighton also comes with three different interchangable motor mounts for differnet diameter and configurations. That results
in a lot of parts. As an aside, my first flight ejected the motor mount of three D12s. I, and others, have chosen to permently glue in the motor mount although there
are other ways to improve securing them. That would be easier to do during the build. I have a second, low numbered SEMROC kit and a couple of the SLS
Laser-X kits. It always amazed me how Sheryl managed to pack all those parts in such an efficient way.

I plan to fly my SLS Brighton at NARAM 58 later this month. I finished it like the 1968 catalog: https://www.ninfinger.org/rockets/nostalgia/68estp28.html

Chas

#### samb

Question about the Saturn 1B. Is this an actual Semroc kit, or one of the "Estes" versions that are a Semroc release? You know, like the Orbital Transport and Starship Vega.
It is based on the Estes design K-29/1229. I don't know if erockets has tweaked anything with their kitting process.

FWIW I think James Duffy is spot on. Carl's prices were INSANE !!!

#### Gary Byrum

##### Overstable By Design
OK Gary. I'll give you an opportunity to put your money where your mouth is, and you can get rid of those junky Saturn 1B kits by selling them to me for \$0.05 each. You'll be doubling your money.
Actually, it's a 'still in box' Saturn V I paid 45.00 for. If I had waited another week, I could have gotten them for 35.00 apiece. The 1B was bought at retail price from SEMROC I believe. That being said, and knowing what I'd do now, I wouldn't have invested in either of them. The 1B and one of the SAT V's are the unfinished birds that may or may not get finished. I suppose I'm still mad at them, eh? But if I do invest the time, I prolly won't even fly them. I will not wreck what I have already invested too much time in. And that's a great lot of time considering I fabricated so many of the parts. And I wouldn't get my hopes up on your nickel investment offer....:wink: