SCALE - (MGR-1) Honest John Gallery

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    Estes Maxi Honest John (#1269) Basic Information.

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    MODEL NAME: Maxi Honest John Also known as: Maxi Brute Honest John, Honest John

    NUMBER: #1269

    Introduced: 1975, also 1993 for one year
    Final Year: 1983
    Designer: Ed Brown

    Type: Scale
    Motor Mount: 1x24mm
    Recovery: Parachute
    Stages: 1
    Length: 37"
    Diameter: 2.6"
    Span:
    Weight: 14 oz

    Mfg. Description: Our newest Maxi-Brute is a 1/9 scale model of the famous U.S. Army surface-to-surface, supersonic ballistic missile. Lists as a 762mm, very heavy field artillery rocket, the real M31 series Honest John follows a free flight trajectory similar to that of an artillery shell. First developed as a JATO booster for other missiles, the motor had such tremendous thrust that a warhead and fins were added to make it a separate rocket. Completely mobile, the Honest John can be carried by and fired from a regulation Army truck. A small team of only five or six men is required for handling and launching. Employing a solid fuel rocket motor, it has high reliability coupled with great accuracy over a range of 15 to 30 miles. Producing a thrust of 90,950 lbs it travels at speeds of mach 1.5 and is capable of delivering a nuclear or high explosive warhead. Spin motors provide initial stabilization at liftoff. One of the main stays of the Army's tactical atomic weapons system, the Honest John has been operation with US Pentomic airborne and infantry divisions and overseas with our NATO forces.

    Our new, highly detailed version of this well known rocket uses single "D" engine power for truly realistic lift-offs.

    Smaller diameter body should make it our best performing Maxi. Comes with pre-shaped, accurately scaled fins and molded plastic nose cone, plus quick-release engine mount and additional scale data. Spectacular recovery with dual 24" orange and white canopy chutes. Great for demonstrations and perfect as a display model. A 3/16" is recommended for best lift-off results. (Estes 1995 Catalog)

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  2. Dec 12, 2011 #32

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    I`d like to know what happened to all the Maxi Pershing 1As

    I`ll have to move one of those HoJos to the top of the build list and beef it up for 29mm reloads.

    Paul t
     
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    The Pershing was the last rocket I built as a kid. I was already mostly out of it but liked the look of the Pershing. I built it and launched it from the middle of my school's football field.

    The school was Texas Military Institute. It sat back then on a cliff overlooking US 281. I did not expect much performance from that thing on a D12-3 but it went up, drifted over the cliff, across 281 and landed somewhere near the San Antonio Gun Club. I never saw it again but it is one I would like to re-acquire.

    I have a Roachwerks Pershing. I just need the time, money and employment to build it.
     
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    Schoolyard Rockets Honest John Basic Information.

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    MODEL NAME: Honest John Also known as:

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  5. Feb 7, 2009 #35

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    Madcow Honest John Rocket (K-115) Basic Information.

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    MODEL NAME: Honest John Rocket Also known as:

    NUMBER: K-115

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    Type: Scale
    Motor Mount: 1x29mm
    Recovery: Parachute
    Stages: 1
    Length: 38"
    Diameter: 2.6" (3.4" at Nose)
    Span:
    Weight: 28oz

    Mfg. Description: The HONEST JOHN M31 was a simple, free-flight rocket capable of delivering a nuclear warhead. This highly mobile system was designed to fire like conventional artillery in battlefield areas. The Basic (M31) HONEST JOHN system was first deployed in 1954. It was replaced by the Improved (M50) HONEST JOHN (left) in 1961 which reduced the system's weight, shortened its length, and increased its range. In July 1982, all HONEST JOHN rocket motors, launchers, and related ground equipment items were type classified obsolete. (Madcow 2011 Web Ad)


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  6. Feb 7, 2009 #36

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    Estes Honest John (K-27 or #1227) Basic Information.

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    MODEL NAME: Honest John Also known as:

    NUMBER: K-27 or #1227

    Introduced: 1966
    Final Year: 1979
    Designer: G. Harry Stine

    Type: Scale
    Motor Mount: 1x18mm
    Recovery: Parachute
    Stages: 1
    Length: 13.75"
    Diameter: 0.976"
    Span: 4.4"
    Weight: 1.19 oz

    Mfg. Description: A beautiful scale model that performs with brilliance. Lifts off the launch pad fast and streaks skyward straight and true. Recommended for experienced modelers, the kit comes complete. An exciting flight model and a historic one for your display shelf. (Estes 1967 Catalog)

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    Estes Mini Honest John (#2446) Basic Information.

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    MODEL NAME: Mini Honest John Also known as:

    NUMBER: #2446

    Introduced: 2011
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    Type: Scale
    Motor Mount: 1x13mm
    Recovery: Parachute
    Stages: 1
    Length: 11.75 in. (29.8 cm)
    Diameter: 0.98 in. (25 mm)
    Span:
    Weight: 1.2 oz. (34 g)

    Mfg. Description: Mini engine powered, this sport scaled model of a U.S. battle field artillery missile features a detailed molded nose cone and balsa fins. Although simple in construction the resulting model features plenty of detail that you will be proud to display. (Estes 2011 Web Ad)


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  8. Feb 7, 2009 #38

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    Fliskits Honest John (MX008) Basic Information.

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    MODEL NAME: Honest John Also known as:

    NUMBER: MX008

    Introduced: 2006
    Final Year:
    Designer: Jim Flis

    Type: Scale
    Motor Mount: 1x6mm
    Recovery: Streamer
    Stages: 1
    Length: 4.46"
    Diameter: 0.375"
    Span: 1.72"
    Weight:

    Mfg. Description: MX008 - Honest John 1:61

    The FlisKits Honest John 1:61 represents a first for FlisKits in that it is our first Scale Model. While not containing the kind of detail that you would find in a larger version of this model, the Micromaxx® Honest John is still a model you can be proud to build and fly!

    This tiny representation of the famous Honest John missile features laser cut 1/16" thick basswood fins. These laser cut fins also feature a precise etched line to indicate the sanding line when feathering the edges to match that of the real missile. Also included with this exciting kit are silk screened decals providing the US ARMY decal (times 2) along with pitch/yaw markers and even decals representing the spin motors on the nose cone. Of course the die-hard scale modeler is welcome to try their hand at carving scale spin motors to attach to the nose cone!

    Further, the nose cone, tiny as it is, is as close to true scale as we can make it, with the tail end of the cone a true conic shape. Many version of the Honest John model have errored in this respect, making the entire cone a curved profile.

    As small as she is, she still performs incredibly well with Micromaxx® motors and can easily soar to 100 feet and beyond on MMXII motors. In addition to the fins and decals, the MTTM Honest John also features #16 Kevlar® shock line with a 1/2" X 8" red and silver mylar streamer for safe recovery and ease of tracking.

    See how FlisKits has set new standards with reagard to the world of micromaxx! Discover for yourself the quality and performance that these small models and motors can really display. Forget everything you've heard about "plastic bricks" and poor performance. Not with these beauties! Ultra light weight, precision cut parts and the finest turned balsa nose cones in the industry, bar none! (Fliskits 2006 Web Ad)


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  9. Feb 7, 2009 #39

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    Excelsior Honest Goon Basic Information.

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    MODEL NAME: Honest Goon Also known as:

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    Type: Sport, Goony
    Motor Mount: 1x18mm
    Recovery: Parachute
    Stages: 1
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    Mfg. Description: The HONEST GOON... just one look says it all: slow and low. It lumbers off the pad yet is very stable. The secret is that big, fat nose section. (actually a BT-6070, and a BNC70AJ). It is fun to build, and and even more fun to lob... I mean fly.

    The Honest Goon requires slightly more skill than the other GOONYs as the modeler must build the nosecone from a balsa transition and a balsa nosecone. We rate it at Skill Level 2. As with other Retro Bash kits, the basis is a Baby Bertha. Included are instructions, fin patterns and all the decals needed to build your own Honest Goon. The modeler must supply a Baby Bertha kit, a BT70AJ, a TA6070, and a small ring of BT70.


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  10. Feb 7, 2009 #40

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    Estes Honest John (#1919) Basic Information.

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    MODEL NAME: Honest John Also known as:

    NUMBER: #1919

    Introduced: 1984
    Final Year: 1988
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    Type: Scale
    Motor Mount: 1x18mm
    Recovery: Parachute
    Stages: 1
    Length: 19.2"
    Diameter: 1.325"
    Span:
    Weight: 1.78 oz

    Mfg. Description: An updated version of this famous U.S. Army missile. Flights to 1,000 feet. (Estes 1984 Catalog)


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  11. Feb 7, 2009 #41

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    Cox Honest John (#5050) Basic Information.

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    MODEL NAME: Honest John Also known as:

    NUMBER: #5050

    Introduced:
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    Type: Scale, Payload
    Motor Mount: 1x18mm
    Recovery: Parachute
    Stages: 1
    Length: 14"
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    Mfg. Description: A single-stage 1/24 model of the U.S. Army's 1st line ballistic missile. Has a payload type nose cone. (Cox 1970 Catalog)


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    Thrustline Honest John (TACL-003) Basic Information.

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    MODEL NAME: Honest John Also known as:

    NUMBER: TACL-003

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  13. Feb 7, 2009 #43

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    Thrustline Honest John (TACL-004) Basic Information.

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    MODEL NAME: Honest John Also known as:

    NUMBER: TACL-004

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    Estes Mini Honest John.

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    I was looking to build a cheap FAST rocket and after some calculations decided to modify an $8.95 Mini Honest John. The body tube was 'Doped' to strengthen it as it would also be acting as the engine mount. The motor case of choice was the Aerotech Hobbyline RMS 24-60 using an F35-11W. The nose cone was filled with Variable density two part foam and hollowed to fit the Micro Beacon (from Apogee Rockets, excellent customer service!) Loading was tight, but WOW did it GO:)
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    (Sorry about the poor quality pics....taken on phone)
     
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    WOW ... where is the video? Did you recover it?
     
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    Great recovery, was a very calm day. I am hoping to launch it again soon and will do my best to get some footage. I should have noted that I replaced the kit shock cord for a longer nylon one.
     
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    Centuri Honest John (KC-25 or #5085) Basic Information.

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    MODEL NAME: Honest John Also known as:

    NUMBER: KC-25 or #5085

    Introduced: 1966
    Final Year: 1975
    Designer:

    Type: Scale
    Motor Mount: 1x18mm
    Recovery: Parachute
    Stages: 1
    Length: 13.4"
    Diameter: 0.907"
    Span:
    Weight: 1.05 oz

    Mfg. Description: A true-scale operating model of the U.S. Army's famous surface-to-surface ballistic missile. This 1/25th detailed scale model of HONEST JOHN lifts off the pad for a thrilling flight skyward, and returns gently to earth by a colorful parachute. Comes to you in easy-to-build kit form. Complete, except for engines. (Centuri 1967 Catalog)

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    True-scale operating model of the U.S. Army's famous surface-to-surface ballistic missile. This 1/25 detailed scale model of HONEST JOHN lifts off the launch pad for a thrilling flight skyward, and returns gently to Earth by a brightly colored parachute. Comes in easy-to-build kit form. Complete except engines. (Centuri 1969 Catalog)

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    An accurate 1/25 scale version of the U.S. Army's famous surface-to-surface ballistic missile. A collector's item, this detailed scale model lifts off the launch pad for a realistic and breathtaking flight skyward, returning to earth safely on a brightly colored parachute. In kit form with decals and easy-to-understand instructions. (Centuri 1970 Christmas Catalog)

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    Wow, it's amazing how many rockets get built when you retire.*

    Here's a quick shot of a very rapid build of the relatively recent Mini Honest John release from Estes. Being a obsessive scale type there was simply no way the absurdly inaccurate "US MILITARY" decal was going to be used, so I went looking for alternate schemes. Google favored me with a great shot of a development round of the beastie that could be completed with black decal film. I've attached the reference photo and a peek at the finished model. (I may yet hit it with a dullcoat.)

    The launch lug and motor hook were omitted and the model will launch using a simple fixed-head piston launcher.

    James

    * My brief "retirement" will be coming to an end in just over a month when I return to school. I had NO idea that I would get this bored this quickly, so consider this fair warning to those of you considering an exit from the ranks of the employed. Had I known I might have toiled away in the mines for a few more weeks.

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    A Fliskits micro Honest John with decals by Excelsior

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    Here's my Estes Honest John (#1919).

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    I built this rocket in the 1980's. The paint was supplied to me by a friend in the Army National Guard.

    Currently, this rocket is on loan to a math teacher, Mr. Powers in the Hidden Valley School District, Grants Pass, Oregon to display in his classroom. I also gave him a built Estes Yellow Jacket to display.
     
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    Ive got a mini honest john from estes, wasnt able to get the right color paint but the dark green isnt that bad IMO.
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    Here is my mini I have had one flight with it so far.

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    Finished HoJo.jpg
    Madcow 2.6" Fiber Glass. 29mm MMT, Doghouse Rocketry Rail Buttons and Stand off, Aeropack retainer.
    Done in Desert Tan, minus the canards, the thinking was this is an updated version for use in the Gulf war.

    Flies great! So far: G131 Smokey Sam and an H133 Blue Streak Probably get a G126 White Thunder next
     
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    My Estes Mini Honest John looks good in red!

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  28. Feb 13, 2014 #58

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    foamy

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    Yes, it does. Very nice.
     
  29. Jul 19, 2014 #59

    NAR29996

    NAR29996

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    Estes Maxi Honest John, ca 1988-90, Aerotech E15.

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  30. Jan 28, 2015 #60

    Fishhead

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    Another Ebay bird, this one was picked up as an afterthought with several other Estes birds. I've flown it once, but it's since been retired due to old age fragility.
     

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