I am so totally surprised nobody has entered a BB II !! I mean really..... I`ll start the ball of wax melting.... Estes old kit, built 10 years ago ,and lost. I have 2 more of these in the bag ,waiting to be built. Have the Cosmodrome BBII Just bought the MadCow 4" DD kit. C`mon man....lets see some REAL rockets! Paul)T .