Scale 1:96 paper model of Delta rocket

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te_groen31

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Hello group,


A new paper model in scale 1:96 is added to my club's website :
https://www.lansbergen.net ( click "modelbouw" on the left. )

It's an old Delta rocket, bought by the NOAA, to launch one
of their many satellites, in this case the GOES-F geostationary
satellite.

This rocket was launched in 1983, when the Delta's still
had their original color blue: just the bare primer coat.
Somewhat darker, greener and greyer than what we see today.

Next models to be released are the Redstones.

Greetings,

Erik.
 

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Originally posted by te_groen31
Hello group,


A new paper model in scale 1:96 is added to my club's website :
https://www.lansbergen.net ( click "modelbouw" on the left. )

It's an old Delta rocket, bought by the NOAA, to launch one
of their many satellites, in this case the GOES-F geostationary
satellite.

This rocket was launched in 1983, when the Delta's still
had their original color blue: just the bare primer coat.
Somewhat darker, greener and greyer than what we see today.

Next models to be released are the Redstones.

Greetings,

Erik.
I've downloaded a number of these models, and they're in my "stack" of winter building projects. I think flight converting these things is a good way to get a nice looking bird that you're not too afraid to fly. And since my company installed a color laser printer on the network, I'm afraid that "stack" is gonna get higher. . .
 

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I have downloaded a number of these models also. I have converted the Daimant B and the Juno 1 to flying models. A Delta is on my winter building list.
 

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Erik,

Where do you obtain your data for these models? Do you just have a really big collection of photos, or do you have some 'insider' connections where you can get the details?

And BTW, your website has a lot of very nice work posted there. Thanks for sharing with us!
 

te_groen31

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Hello PB,

All of the above, really.

It took me years to gather all kinds of information,
links, websites, etc...etc...
I choose an object and then I try to find as much information
about it as I can. Pictures, mainly, because only pictures
show the rocket or satellite the way it really lookes like.

Next I try to find drawings, press releases, press kits, etc..

Mainly, just anything that holds information about the
spacecraft. Sometimes I find a document that only has
text. But if that information says the rocket is 100 feet high,
6 feet diameter, etc...etc... then, in combination with
a lot of pictures, a very accurate model can be achieved.

That's why it sometimes takes years for me to finish a model.

There are more sources and ways to make a good model,
but please respect my choice, that I do not wish to reveal
everything I know and share everything I have.
I have spent an awful lot of time, money and effort on
my models, and since ALL of them are downloadable
for free, I think I have been - in all honesty - more than
generous.
Making these models costs me a lot of money and I never
get anything ( financial ! ) in return.....

But check some of my other posts, I don't mind sharing
pictures, logo's, and other kinds of information. ;-)

If you need help, just write me. I rarely turn anyone down.

Of the Delta rockets alone, I have well over 5 Gigabytes of
info ! And it's growing almost daily........ |-(

Let me give you some good advice : If you find a drawing,
also try to find pictures of the same spacecraft you want
to copy. A picture doesn't lie. Drawings can be faulty
or incomplete. Or antiquated.
That's why I update my models, now and then. Just like
the 300th Delta launch. Just before launch Boeing added
just one star around the triangle. Just one !! I have pictures
with 25 and 26 stars. Launch pictures are the best ! They
show the rocket the way it was launched, ofcourse.
Nobody changes details on a rocket during or after launch !!! ;-)


One thing I may not leave out : I could never make the
detailed models without the help of other people !
I know where to go and who to write, if I need certain
information.
Since some of my sources are people who work at
NASA, Caltech, JPL, ESA, etc.. I hope you understand I
keep their mail addresses to myself ! ;-)
( Without the help of several other generous space fans these
models could not be made. I am grateful for any bit
of help I get. )

Having such addresses gives me access to information
most other people do not have. On the other hand,
I get a "no" much more often the a "yes" ! They
don't share everything with me, either.

Do you know where to get information about the two
Mars Rovers ? Don't worry. Nobody does.
Their exact sizes, details, close-up
pictures, etc..etc.. I found a lot but not enough.


That's it, for now.

If you need some help, just mail me and I shall see
what I can do for you.

In the meantime, get ready for some other nice models.

I've got some interesting models on the drawing board.
And for once, they are NOT those **** Delta's with
tooooo many boosters !!! ;-)

No...it's time for a change !

Greetings,

Erik.


( P.S. One booster a day keeps a sore thumb away )
 

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Don't know if this is a *good* idea, but here goes---

Have you ever considered selling your paper rockets? By that I mean a pre-printed set of pages? I don't think anyone would begrudge letting you add a small profit margin to pay for some of your costs and time.

I suggest this because not all of us have a printer available where we can print these things out. These pages require a good-quality color printer, and one that will handle the heavy paper needed for these models. I do not have one of those at home (can't afford it) and if I go to the local copy shop they charge a ridiculous price to print these pages. Even in the office, the color printers that are readily available do not do a good job on heavy paper (curled paper, crinkled colors, etc).

It would definitely be worth it to me to purchase these things already printed.
 

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Hello PB,

I think there is a difference between selling them ( now
and then ) and going 100% commercial.
Especially the last one sounds great but is the first thing
I should abandon. In order to maintain a healthy income,
I must produce so many models per month, I will
have hardly any time to even sleep..............

I would like to sell you - or anyone else for that matter -
some printed models, but since we live on opposite sides
of the world, all the postage & package, insurance, etc...
will make the model so expensive, it will be much easier to
look around in your own neighborhood and try to find
a cheaper way to get your models.


Last week I got extremely lucky. The father of one of our
young members has access to a professional printer
that can print in full color up to A0 size ( 1 whole newspaper
sheet ).
He told me I could send him some files and he would print
the models. And so I did. Right now I am building a huge
Delta ( FUSE, launch # 271), Bell X-1, ANS ( Dutch satellite).
All models are 2.828 times greater than the original
paper model. Some other models are being printed.
All models are printed on A1, b.t.w. for several reasons.

I shall post some pictures, if you like.
Ask around. Look around for people who might be willing
to help you.

So, if you like, I could send you some printed models, but
I'm afraid I can't find a way to do it cheaply......

And nowadays, printers are real cheap. Almost for free.
It's the cartridges that drain your bank account.....

The paper I use costs about USD $ 0.50 per sheet. One
full color, high-res print might cost app. $ 2.-- Envelope
is about $ 2.-- Shipping to the USA costs.... ??? what ?
$ 10.-- ??? Shipping and insurance will be the most
costly part.

I'll let you decide.

If you like, mail me at my private e-mail address.



Gotta sleep a litte, now..........( 00:35 AM )


Bye.

Erik.
 

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You are probably right, trying to make a full-time job out of selling prints is probably an awful lot of work. I was just thinking out loud.

Do you ever take requests? The old Sprint anti-ballistic missile is a cool configuration and should make a simple paper pattern?
The X-15 would be another great model.

As far as getting these things printed myself, after fumbling around trying different things I found a friend who had a suitable printer at his home. I printed a batch once and "paid" him by buying a color cartridge for his printer. I provided the cardstock. I collected a bunch of paper kits on a CD and got him to print the whole thing. He got to keep whatever part of the color cartidge that was left over. I have a mountain of paper projects now---they take up about two inches of the file cabinet. This is probably a lifetime supply for me, at the rate I am going.
 

te_groen31

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PB,

Please think out loud, that what this forum is for ! ;-)

Sure I take requests, but remember, I have a lot of models
on the drawing board. Some almost finished, some just
half-way. This means a request may take many months
or well over a year before it's fulfilled. Unless the model
is very simple to make.

The Sprint is maybe a bit too easy . And I try to limit the
number of models of war hardware as much as possible. It
took a lot of time and writing before I decided
to make the Jupiter IRBM model available.

Since there are already a few good (paper) models of the X-15
available, I don't see the need to make one, too.

But...if you like the Sprint, I will consider making a model,
if you can provide the pictures and websites.


Bye,

Erik.
 

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Erik,

Just wanted to say thanks for all your work on these models.
Here's a Titan I got from your site and converted to fly on 13mm motors. The nose is weighted enough that is doesn't need fins.

Thanks again,

Tim
 
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