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I'm still bummed that he didn't get into the Hall of Fame. Never mind the extracurricular activities... lots of athletes have done a whole lot worse, and they made it in. AND, he didn't do it jacked up on steroids, either.
Especially since every sport now advertises a gambling site. BS...
 
I'm still bummed that he didn't get into the Hall of Fame. Never mind the extracurricular activities... lots of athletes have done a whole lot worse, and they made it in. AND, he didn't do it jacked up on steroids, either.
He preferred greenies.
 
Pete Rose, and icon of America's favorite pasttime passed away today at 83. One of the greatest.
I remember his playing one season for the Montreal Expos and watching him hit #4000. That was a great moment. I really hope the dogs in charge of MLB get off their high horses and put him in to the HOF because he more than deserves it.
 
Absolutely should be in the HOF.
One of the greatest ever.

Betting is SO embedded in the game today it's a joke that he is banned.
He was just ahead of his time:rolleyes:
Indeed betting is very much embedded in the game today, however, betting on a team which one is the manager of is still very much forbidden. Rose was not “ahead of his time” in that regard since that still is very much not allowed today.
 
Insider info for sure - but never any evidence that he influenced the outcomes.
How do we know who bets on what today beyond the appearance that nearly everyone is betting on something.
 
Insider info for sure - but never any evidence that he influenced the outcomes.
How do we know who bets on what today beyond the appearance that nearly everyone is betting on something.
Insider info? In 2004 Rose admitted to betting on Reds games while he was both a player and a manager. While there is no evidence of whether he influenced the outcomes of those games (only he would know) the fact is that his doing so was a huge violation of MLB rules then and now. Even more importantly it violated public trust in the sanctity of the game.

He was a great baseball player. One of the greatest. He also made a huge error in judgement that put the credibility of the very game that he loved and was so great at in jeopardy.

RIP Pete Rose.
 
While there is no evidence of whether he influenced the outcomes of those games (only he would know) t
The integrity part is whether the games he didn't bet on were affected by his gambling. For example did he save "players" for the games he bet on which distorted the natural competition of the league.

Great player but an imperfect man, like all of us.
 
Indeed betting is very much embedded in the game today, however, betting on a team which one is the manager of is still very much forbidden. Rose was not “ahead of his time” in that regard since that still is very much not allowed today.
Pete's bets were placed for the team winning the game.
Had it been the other way around the perception of the occurrence would be much different.
 
Pete's bets were placed for the team winning the game.
Had it been the other way around the perception of the occurrence would be much different.
Do we have any evidence of this other than Pete's word? He's not exactly a guy you can trust.
 
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