RF Approved: Cherokee-G Limited Run Kit

[nabooengineer]

Good guess CBrarick, but not the Orbital Transporter... another great idea though.
Made the call tonight, we’re going to include both 54mm & 38mm CNC
Price point and shipping, those are clear challenges on kit #2. USPS priority shipping is estimated to be around $27.80 USA, and $124 ROW, it’s well over the magic weight. As for the price point, considering what it includes, it’s a great price point.

FYI we are expecting to save builders $150 on the kit #2 run, over a builder just ordering all the parts in a one off scratch build.

Obviously we’re still in prototyping mode, so a few things might still change over the next couple of days.

 

[dander]

Hmmm...... vector v?

 

[Scott Hala]

Kit #2 or Midwest Power. Decisions, Decisions, Decisions.

 

[nabooengineer]

Hmmm...... vector v?

Hi D, Kit #2 is not the Vector V... I even forgot about that Centuri kit. The Vector V always looked deceptively simple. If we upscale it we might be able to get a short 98mm to fit.

 

[dander]

Well, I'm stumped, so I'll wait patiently and check back periodically.

 

[seth_cooper]

Can I give a hint?

 

[NOLA_BAR]

Just a noob BAR here intrigued by this thread. I’ll guess the Estes Starblazer X-20.

 

[nabooengineer]

We plan to have all the latest prototype kit parts in shop this weekend. Then will test fit, take some pics, verify basic dry weights, put the finishing touches on the announcement post text with the kit details.

One of the feature of kit #2 is constructed very different than the original due to upscaling requirements, and has gone through numerous iterations as we fine tune the solution. Deceptively simple from outward appearance.

Then the rush to finish the assembly recommendations for it.

 

[rskiba]

Interested in both and also the 38mm retainer/54mm adapter if it is Aeropack.

 

[nabooengineer]

Good guess NOLA Bar!!

 

[markg]

Good guess NOLA Bar!!

So like this :

https://www.rocketryforum.com/threads/estes-starblazer-gallery.18912/

?

 

[NOLA_BAR]

Good guess NOLA Bar!!

Cool! Two different BT sizes, 11 fins, rare Estes design! Also I have been looking at doing a BT80H upscale of the same rocket using an Aerotech nose cone. HP isn’t my thing quite yet but... the 38mm option in your version is [emoji106]. Cheers!

 

[nabooengineer]

So like this :

https://www.rocketryforum.com/threads/estes-starblazer-gallery.18912/

?

Yes sir, the wonderful Starblazer X-20 Kit #1342 from 1980... it goes 8,000 M.P.H.!! I actually want to do 2 of them personally. One showroom fresh and one weathered like it's seen action.

 

[nabooengineer]

Do you think we should go ahead and start the interest thread?... just won't have pics of the final parts.

 

[Ez2cDave]

Star Stryker is good guess, but not enough fins, so not Kit #2.

Just so long as it's NOT an Estes "GOONY BIRD" . . . LOL !

Dave F.

 

[nabooengineer]

Just so long as it's NOT an Estes "GOONY BIRD" . . . LOL !

Dave F.

Hmm... an 18" diameter Goony... that could be fun.. but I am sure someone has already done that.

 

[mrtriton]

Do you think we should go ahead and start the interest thread?... just won't have pics of the final parts.

Yup. Let's get it going! And I'm definitely in!
- Mark

 

[Scott Hala]

Let's get the show on the road.

 

[nabooengineer]

Ok... interest thread started.

 

[Lynn McCall]

Yes sir, the wonderful Starblazer X-20 Kit #1342 from 1980... it goes 8,000 M.P.H.!! I actually want to do 2 of them personally. One showroom fresh and one weathered like it's seen action.

Why not just fly the crap out of it? That will give it some hit points.

 

[Killztar]

I am so sad I missed this last year, I would LOVE this upscale kit! Cherokee is an old favorite, like DRM, which I do have the upscale for.. any chance for another run?

 

[Brent]

You should be able to buy the parts from Semroc. They have the correct nose cone for a 2.6 upscale. Same one as used in the Arcas kit. I bought the parts back when Carl was still with us. I can get it out of the trailer and take a picture if you like.

 

[John Kemker]

Anybody want to get together for a 4" diameter run? We'll need someone to source a nosecone. I'm thinking 54mm MMT, up to small K power, dual deployment.

I can't spearhead, but I'd be more than happy to commit to a purchase.

"Cherokee K"

 

[UncleJoe]

I have an Estes model and the AAA model, I'd love a 4" kit yet it seems your supplying ogive nosecones when the design is a straight cone shaped nosecone. Will you be supplying scale nosecose with the kit?

 

[John Kemker]

I have an Estes model and the AAA model, I'd love a 4" kit yet it seems your supplying ogive nosecones when the design is a straight cone shaped nosecone. Will you be supplying scale nosecose with the kit?

I'm thinkint "Short Kit."

Nose cone, plywood or 'glass fins, decals, instructions. Similar to the way the model airplane crowd has "short kits" of various models. Provide the stuff that's hard to get hold of, let the builder source everything else.

 

[Killztar]

You should be able to buy the parts from Semroc. They have the correct nose cone for a 2.6 upscale. Same one as used in the Arcas kit. I bought the parts back when Carl was still with us. I can get it out of the trailer and take a picture if you like.

I can get the NC, but am having an issue finding the BT that long....

 

[John Kemker]

I can get the NC, but am having an issue finding the BT that long....

That's what tube couplers and more than one BT are for.

 

[Brent]

I can get the NC, but am having an issue finding the BT that long....

I used a coupler with a baffler installed. I believe they sell them that way. The recovery system attaches to the baffler and keeps the chute forward.

 

[UncleJoe]

Anyone know where to find a scale straight cone shaped nosecone for 4" tube? Just wouldn't look right with a ogive nosecone.

 

[rharshberger]

Anyone know where to find a scale straight cone shaped nosecone for 4" tube? Just wouldn't look right with a ogive nosecone.

The Cherokee-D uses a secant ogive (actual shape name) nosecone which is a near conical but not quite straight from tip to base. No company I am aware of makes a secant ogive nosecone larger than 2.6" (Semroc/Erockets), larger than BT-80 (2.6") is pretty much a custom order from someone willing to make one.