Re-born Black Brant II

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  1. Sep 27, 2002 #1

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    This is the BBII that I had to cut 1/2" off the BT due to a zipper. I didn't think I would fly it again because of the rough shape it was in. I wish I had taken a picture of it before the rebuild. The fins had been broken off several times and it was really banged up. I have worked on it now for about 2 months off and on and the TLC paid off. It is ready to fly. I've got a pack of C11's just waiting. :D

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  2. Sep 27, 2002 #2

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    swimmer:
    looks to me like you did a hell of a restore job on that baby!.....looks nice.....
     
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    Swimmer,

    That looks just great!

    But I thought you finished that a long time ago.

    I don't have the decals on mine yet...mine was a little worse...lost to the wheat field gods...R.I.P.


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  4. Sep 27, 2002 #4

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    Sandman,

    The BBII took a backseat to my Mustang construction and we took a vacation so the resurrection was delayed. Hopefully the weather will cooperate this weekend so I can launch a few. Thanks you guys for your compliments!

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  5. Sep 27, 2002 #5

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    Swimmer,

    I forgot to add one thing...

    If you hadn't told us nobody could tell that it was shortened. Not even Peter Alway.

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  6. Sep 27, 2002 #6

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    Sandman,

    Got by the hobby shop and took a look at the OT. Lots of parts!Their price was $20.99. Going to check at Hobby Lobby then purchase. Looks like a nice kit.

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  7. Sep 27, 2002 #7

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    Swimmer,

    Don't be in a big hurry to buy the OT.

    I saw them at my local (40 miles away) hobby shop for $17.99>

    Be sure to shop around.

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  8. Sep 28, 2002 #8

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    Sandman,

    Just got back from Hobby Lobby and they didn't have the OT. But since I was there I got 3 packs of C11's. ($7.99 ea) Think I will hold off on the OT until I can find it cheaper. Anyway our KS. weather is really beautiful for flying this time of year. Virtually no wind.

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  9. Sep 28, 2002 #9

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    Magnum Rockets still has several at $16.95 each.

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  10. Sep 28, 2002 #10

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    Anyone know where I can get some reproduction decals for my BB2?

    I built this one about 8 years ago. (See attached) Unfortunately, I left for the Air Force and the remnants were left at the hands of my sister living at my dad's. It probably fell of the shelf several times. All of the antennaes are gone, decals are flaking off, and 2 of the fins snapped off. It is an intact kit that I would love to resurrect. I just need the decals so that I can strip it down and redo. Let me know if you all have any sources. (JimZ doesn't have it listed on his site.)

    Thanks in advance!
     
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    eugene,

    Contact JimZ at http://www.provide.net/~jimz/jimz.htm

    He just finished a set of decals for me (168%) for a small upscale I did. So he has the scans for the original.

    Also you might try Christine at Estes. 1-800-525-7561 x216.

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    I am in the middle of building an Estes BB2 and have the decal sheet intact. I could scan and send if this would be of any help. Just let me know. I'll probably be putting them on the rocket in a week or so.

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  13. Sep 29, 2002 #13

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    Thanks for the offer. I'm just not ambitious enough to print my own decals yet. :rolleyes: I guess I'm just looking for the easy way out! :)

    Sandman, thanks for the tip. I will more than likely call up Estes and go that route first.

    So tell us about this upscale BB2... :p We're all dying to find out!
     
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    The upscale is no big deal...

    BT-60 Body...homemade spruce nose cone, balsa tail cone, ply fins, JimZ decals.

    Big enough for a D12 engine.

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    Ahh...I do remember this thread now. Did the rocket ever get built or were you waiting on the decals to proceed?

    The BT60 sounds like a perfect upscale project, especially for a D.
     
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    eugene,

    Both rockets are built and painted. I gave jimZ the decals for the original for him to upscale.

    He has the upscale decals done. I just have to pick them up and put then on.

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  18. Oct 8, 2002 #18

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    This was a beautiful night for flying. My wife and I loaded up all the gear and went to the local park. Took two BBII's and a bunch of C11 motors.

    Prepped my BBII, put it on the rod and proceeded with countdown and launched. Good boost and straight flight, then, no chute. The shrouds were tangled even though I am careful about loading them correctly. Anyway rocket landed hard on its side and broke a fin. The break is very fibery and it is going to be difficult to reattach correctly. Take a look at the pic and see if you have any ideas for reattachment.

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    Tried to explain in the chat but...well, we all know how the chat is!

    Try to fit the pieces together as tight as you can...ya might have to remove some little pieces of wood.

    Drill holes into the fin as deep as you dare with a pin...this gives the glue someplace to go.

    Fill one edge with thick super glue or epoxy (not too much) let the glue soak into the wood, then squeeze the parts back together.

    Clean up any extra glue and tape the parts together till the glue cures.

    Sand fill and refinnish the fin. You knew you were gonna havta refinnish anyway.

    If it is not satisfactory...well ya just gotta cut the dumb thing off and make another fin...sorry!

    It's worth a shot!

    Good luck,

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    Sandman,

    I pressed the two pieces back together as you suggested and with removal of a few splinters I think it will reglue without problem. Thanks for the suggestion. A little fill and paint and she'll fly again.

    Where does one find 1/16" plywood?

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    You can normally find 1/16" plywood at a hobby shop that has RC airplane building supplies. Look in your yellow pages under hobby shops, look for one that specializes in RC airplanes. Call them and see if they carry 1/16" ply.
     
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    1/16" ply is usually right next to the balsa wood rack at most hobby shops.

    On line from Balsa Machining Services too.

    Good luck,

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    Took Sandmans advice and pressed broken halves together. Had to remove a few splinters but eventually meshed. The repair is well underway and looks great. Ready to fill and finish. The pic shows the repair progress.



    Swimmer:)
     
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    Sandman, you might find this amusing, but after all this time I finally picked up the phone and decided to call! Man, you weren't kidding! Christine was brief (she seemed busy), but she took care of me and offered to send me a set of decals for FREE! I would have loved to chat with her and tell her about all my great rocketry experiences because of Estes, but I'm sure all of the BAR's that have called in the past few months/years have given her plenty of good stories.

    Thank you very much. And a HUGE thanks to Christine! I can't wait to rebuild my BB2! (You'd better believe I will be keeping the envelope the decals arrive in. I certainly don't remember the last time I received a mailing from them!)
     

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