Pro Series II going away?

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  1. Aug 10, 2019 #61

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    Thank you. Picked one up.
     
  2. Aug 11, 2019 #62

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    We don't have a Meijer anywhere near us, and the Walmarts don't carry rocket stuff at all here anymore. So yay Hobby Lobby.
     
  3. Aug 12, 2019 #63

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    Pics from a club member who is trying out the new offerings

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    Wow that is some red. Also, the Solo is really wacky looking. I can't get my head to comprehend the asymmetry. Points for uniqueness!
     
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    Where does he get actual red max nose cones?
     
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    Probably Estes.....

     
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    Finished mine this afternoon. Flying on Sunday

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    My understanding is that he gets them from Estes. :)
     
  13. Aug 14, 2019 at 5:33 PM #73

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    Estes was really late to the Midpower market. They have tried multiple times.
    That being said, I really liked the Mega Mosquito and Big Red Max. Glad I bought them before the disappeared.

    It seems part of the trouble is NAR and Tripoli are 2 different groups (that don't mix much).

    I love them ALL. From my 1st rocket (Centuri Astro-1) to Apollo 17 to Space Shuttle, I love em. I don't think I will ever outgrow rockets, but I digress.

    My real fear is Estes will discontinue 29mm BP engines.
     
  14. Aug 14, 2019 at 7:32 PM #74

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    Oh -- the ring is a parasite glider.

    So, the HL exclusive is that you only get half as many gliders as folks who shop elsewhere >smile<.
     
  15. Aug 14, 2019 at 8:29 PM #75

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    But you do get more fin for your dollar! ;)
     
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    As a person who has recently returned to rocketry, this is the problem that I see with Estes mid-power and 29mm BP efforts:

    There is no clear labeling of rockets and the corresponding engine sizes that apply to that rocket. It's not easy, even after doing some close reading, to determine which Estes engines fit each model kit. The 29mm engines should have been labeled PSII clearly on the package. If they make another PSII effort, they need to do a better job of marketing and package design to promote those engines. I only hear people raving about the performance of the 29mm engines in properly-sized (and weighted) Estes rockets, such as the Star Orbiter. I'm hoping to see more midpower rockets like that (perhaps based on classic designs), with clearer marketing and package design.
     
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    Arent E16s abd F15s in the black packs that say "Pro Series II"? And doesn't each estes rocket have its list of recommended motors on the face card/box?

    Admittedly I havent looked at that info specifically in awhile
     
  18. Aug 15, 2019 at 6:36 AM #78

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    You are correct... it does say Pro Series II in the upper right of the engine pack. I didn’t think it was on the package.
     
  19. Aug 15, 2019 at 2:02 PM #79

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    Have we confirmed if Hobby Lobby is stopping carrying the 29mm motors? If so, that'll put the knife in them for me. No other local vendors carry them and I ain't paying hazmat for them. I've already consigned my upscale Quinstar to shelf-queen status because I have no source for F15-0 motors anymore (HL stopped carrying those a while ago).

    I actually wonder how Estes can reasonably sell those motors, if not through HL. I imagine hazmat shipping is a great deterrent to mail-order purchases of these.

    Fortunately there are plenty of good non-hazmat single-use E and F motors from Aerotech.
     
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    AC Supply. Make a flying season order that's over 100
     
  21. Aug 15, 2019 at 4:50 PM #81

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    Can be done if you know what you want in quantity in advance. Doesn't work for me at the moment. Also seems like a tough way for Estes to succeed with those motors.
     
  22. Aug 15, 2019 at 5:22 PM #82

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    I'm sure they still sell quite a few Estes 29mm engines at the various hobby shops across the country. Do you have any local hobby shops nearby? If yes, even if they don't currently stock the engines, perhaps they will if you tell them that you buy some from them every so often.
     
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    If you fly with a club, pool your orders and split the Hazmat. Makes it affordable for everybody.
     
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    None within reach that sell them. Nearest hobby shop doesn't carry them because *he* doesn't want to pay hazmat.
     
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    Like it was said above, you have to pool funds and pay Haz-Mat as a group. If you won’t or can’t, you will do without. This is not something Estes does for money. It is required .
     
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    The Estes Pro Series builder kits were a way to get exposed to the next level of rocketry with a minimal amount of effort. Following the Partizon instructions with basic materials lead me to one of the most prized and handsome performers in my fleet. Launching with the least amount of extras and an E motor made it a low and slow park flyer. With electronics and a high power 29mm motor, the same thin wall tubing withstood huge pressures way beyond what it was intended for with no issues. Check out the following build thread for a comparison with a similar but more substantial HP rocket. I'm glad I picked up a few extra PSII kits as they were being phased out.

    https://www.rocketryforum.com/threads/loc-vulcanite-vs-estes-partizon-build-challenge.66012/
     
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    best.thread.ever!! Loved reading through that comparison and was very impressed by both rockets. The LOC took a real beating and kept on trying and the Estes really performed way above and beyond (literally).

    Thanks for digging up that thread.
     

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