# PML Patriot

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#### ColumbiaNX01

##### Red blooded white American male
Hey everyone! I am thinking about buying the Public Missiles 1/4 Patriot. Does anyone have some information about the kit other than information taht is on the PML website? Is it a pretty good engineered rocket kit? What are the pros and cons of the Patriot? I will be launching it with the 38mm H and I motors.

#### ColumbiaNX01

##### Red blooded white American male
Thanks for the input, I may go with the PML kit

#### COrocket

##### Well-Known Member
I agree, the 1/4 patriot is a solid kit. What i enjoyed is that it was the perfect size to do my level 1 and 2 with it...A H123W to 1500' and a J350W to about 4000'. Mine flies incredible on I and J motors. The only negative thing i would say is that the fins are 1/16", so i have done a couple of layers of tip to tip the fin section, to reduce flutter. I'd say this is only necessary with larger motors. The PR kit definitely has the components to take a larger motor. I could post a picture of mine if you would like to see one in flight.

#### Boosterdude

##### Well-Known Member
I have really enjoyed my PML 1/4 scale Patriot, it's a great flyer. I got my level 1 using a H123 which is a perfect combo.

The only thing I would change is leaving the piston out since it's a pain. The quantum tube is very temperature sensitive, so the piston really tightens up in cold weather. It's a minor problem that's easily solved.

awesome picture!

#### ColumbiaNX01

##### Red blooded white American male
Sweet pic! So if you recommened not to use the piston ejection system for protection of the recovery what do you recommened to protection?

#### COrocket

##### Well-Known Member
Sweet pic! So if you recommened not to use the piston ejection system for protection of the recovery what do you recommened to protection?
A Kevlar or Nomex chute protector would work fine. They are sold from most of the major rocket website vendors. Another note is I would recommend replacing the nylon shockcord that comes with the kit with about a equal amount of kevlar shockcord. After flying mine, i discovered that the nylon strapping above the motor tube and below the piston has seems to be a little stiff in areas, which means it could be close to melting. Its definitely something to consider if you plan on flying it frequently.

#### Boosterdude

##### Well-Known Member
A Kevlar or Nomex chute protector would work fine. They are sold from most of the major rocket website vendors. Another note is I would recommend replacing the nylon shockcord that comes with the kit with about a equal amount of kevlar shockcord. After flying mine, i discovered that the nylon strapping above the motor tube and below the piston has seems to be a little stiff in areas, which means it could be close to melting. Its definitely something to consider if you plan on flying it frequently.
Exactly, that's how I would do the next one. The piston is a neat idea, but a bit of a pain.

#### Marlin523

##### Well-Known Member
I like the paint job on your Patriot. Never cared for that yellow stripe you see so often.

#### mack

##### Active Member
I have really enjoyed my PML 1/4 scale Patriot, it's a great flyer. I got my level 1 using a H123 which is a perfect combo.

The only thing I would change is leaving the piston out since it's a pain. The quantum tube is very temperature sensitive, so the piston really tightens up in cold weather. It's a minor problem that's easily solved.
I am glad to hear this. I am planning on doing my Level 1 Cert flight in February with this exact combo. My Patriot doesn't look as nice as yours though but hopefully it will fly as well.

#### Boosterdude

##### Well-Known Member
I am glad to hear this. I am planning on doing my Level 1 Cert flight in February with this exact combo. My Patriot doesn't look as nice as yours though but hopefully it will fly as well.
Mack, I'm sure yours looks great. With this combo I'm sure that you will be successful.

Good luck!