Pictures of New 2020 Release Estes Rockets

Discussion in 'Low Power Rocketry (LPR)' started by Scott_650, Oct 13, 2019.

Help Support The Rocketry Forum by donating:

  1. Oct 13, 2019 #1

    Scott_650

    Scott_650

    Scott_650

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2015
    Messages:
    379
    Likes Received:
    68
    upload_2019-10-13_10-38-31.jpeg
    upload_2019-10-13_10-40-5.jpeg
    upload_2019-10-13_10-40-28.jpeg

    Recently posted pix of some of the new Estes rockets for 2020. Jesse Ulibarri pointed these out on a couple of rocketry FB pages - originally posted by “Modelrocketguy” who said he had permission from Estes to release them.

    I find the LEO Space Train interesting - does that rail and pod structure slide forward to change the CoG so the whole thing glides for recovery? The SST shows yet another repurposing of the Interceptor nose cone. And we can see that John Boren still loves his laser cutter - look at the details on the Lunar Scout.
     
    Doug Holverson likes this.
  2. Oct 13, 2019 #2

    rharshberger

    rharshberger

    rharshberger

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2014
    Messages:
    8,376
    Likes Received:
    796
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Pasco, WA
    The LEO Space Train is probably just a regular nose blow rocket, and the "rails" or chines and pod don't do anything except add interest. Its a good looking kit and I will probably get one.
     
  3. Oct 13, 2019 #3

    K'Tesh

    K'Tesh

    K'Tesh

    OpenRocket Chuck Norris

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2013
    Messages:
    12,825
    Likes Received:
    433
    I can see myself picking up the TAZZ, Gryphon, Lunar Scout, and the Low Boom SST. I'm also intrigued by the Starship Octavious's nosecone.
     
    Michael Garretson likes this.
  4. Oct 13, 2019 #4

    Tobor

    Tobor

    Tobor

    Get your peanuts.... TRF Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2016
    Messages:
    1,290
    Likes Received:
    210
    Ditto here.
     
  5. Oct 13, 2019 #5

    Initiator001

    Initiator001

    Initiator001

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2009
    Messages:
    2,766
    Likes Received:
    56
    The LEO Space Train appears to be based on the Boeing XS-1 Phantom Express project under construction for DARPA. It is a rapid launch two-stage to orbit vehicle with a recoverable booster. First flight should occur in the next year or two.

    The Low Boom SST is similar to the NASA/Lockheed X-59 QueSST project. First flight of the X-59 is expected in April/May 2021.
     
  6. Oct 13, 2019 #6

    hcmbanjo

    hcmbanjo

    hcmbanjo

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2009
    Messages:
    2,218
    Likes Received:
    45
    The Leo Space train is a standard nose blow, parachute recovery, it doesn't glide.
    It's a detailed build, face card masking is a challenge. The finished model design looks great.
    I built one for Estes, it'll be on my build blog as soon as it is on their website "NEW" page.

    Current blog build is the Estes Boosted Bertha -
     
    dhbarr likes this.
  7. Oct 13, 2019 #7

    Mugs914

    Mugs914

    Mugs914

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2012
    Messages:
    656
    Likes Received:
    156
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Temple Texas
    I'm in for everything on this table at least! Some cool looking stuff! And although I'm not really into the plastic snap-together stuff, I might have to get an Octavius just for the nose cone!

    [​IMG]
     
  8. Oct 13, 2019 #8

    Tobor

    Tobor

    Tobor

    Get your peanuts.... TRF Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2016
    Messages:
    1,290
    Likes Received:
    210
    The Lunar Scout will be a nice compliment to my Luna Bug.
     
  9. Oct 14, 2019 #9

    Scott_650

    Scott_650

    Scott_650

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2015
    Messages:
    379
    Likes Received:
    68
    Well, it still a really interesting rocket even if it’s not as complicated as I hoped ;)
     
  10. Oct 14, 2019 #10

    dpower

    dpower

    dpower

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2009
    Messages:
    1,134
    Likes Received:
    32
    The Low Boom SST is my favorite of the new ones. Is that the small or large Interceptor NC?
     
  11. Oct 14, 2019 #11

    nosecone

    nosecone

    nosecone

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2010
    Messages:
    88
    Likes Received:
    14
    Very nice, thanks.
     
  12. Oct 14, 2019 #12

    neil_w

    neil_w

    neil_w

    When in doubt, add more rocket TRF Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2015
    Messages:
    6,531
    Likes Received:
    930
    Location:
    Northern NJ
    Looks like the BT55 version from here.
     
  13. Oct 14, 2019 #13

    kuririn

    kuririn

    kuririn

    BARGeezer TRF Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2016
    Messages:
    2,459
    Likes Received:
    598
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Hawaii
    Still waiting to see what the rest of the Side Kick looks like.
    Got a glimpse of the nose section on the poster at the hobby show thread.
     
  14. Oct 14, 2019 #14

    BSNW

    BSNW

    BSNW

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2017
    Messages:
    373
    Likes Received:
    94
    WELL DONE ESTES! I want ALL of them! I saw the real world version of the leo space train in an add on a website and thought it would be a GREAT model rocket! Yahoo! I will get three of everything.....no joking.
    Way to go Estes! Very cool.
    BTW: where is our new Interceptor E? ......just asking... :)
    Andrew
     
  15. Oct 14, 2019 #15

    prfesser

    prfesser

    prfesser

    Lifetime Supporter TRF Lifetime Supporter

    Joined:
    May 7, 2017
    Messages:
    714
    Likes Received:
    443
    Location:
    Murray, KY
    That Orange Bullet looks too small to have a chute or streamer, it would appear to be a featherweight-recovery or tumble-recovery model. Must be more to it than meets the eye, with a MSRP of $11.99 (!?)
     
  16. Oct 14, 2019 #16

    BEC

    BEC

    BEC

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2009
    Messages:
    2,671
    Likes Received:
    85
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Auburn, WA
    http://www.spacemodeling.org/jimz/eirp/eirp_03.tif
     
  17. Oct 14, 2019 #17

    neil_w

    neil_w

    neil_w

    When in doubt, add more rocket TRF Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2015
    Messages:
    6,531
    Likes Received:
    930
    Location:
    Northern NJ
    Posted on YORF:
    upload_2019-10-14_10-48-55.png

    "Much Harder to Make" has my attention. The picture doesn't really show them too much, and now very curious to see what the look like from underneath...
     
  18. Oct 14, 2019 #18

    cwbullet

    cwbullet

    cwbullet

    Obsessed with Rocketry Staff Member Administrator TRF Lifetime Supporter Global Mod

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2009
    Messages:
    22,374
    Likes Received:
    1,330
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Glennville, GA
    I would have liked to see one Pro Upscale kit. Too bad.
     
  19. Oct 14, 2019 #19

    BSNW

    BSNW

    BSNW

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2017
    Messages:
    373
    Likes Received:
    94
    I too would have loved to see an offering for the 29mm BP motors. Heck, even a 24mm "two banger" (2 D12 motor cluster) like they did awhile ago. Estes needs to know that there is truly a market for the Pro-Series stuff...all they have to do is build and sell them.
    Andrew
     
  20. Oct 14, 2019 #20

    ebruce1361

    ebruce1361

    ebruce1361

    The man with the plan. And some duct tape.

    Joined:
    May 14, 2018
    Messages:
    114
    Likes Received:
    40
    Location:
    Pinellas County, Florida
    PLEASE tell me that these are regular releases and not just Hobby Lobby exclusives! If so, I'll have one of each! :D
     
  21. Oct 14, 2019 #21

    neil_w

    neil_w

    neil_w

    When in doubt, add more rocket TRF Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2015
    Messages:
    6,531
    Likes Received:
    930
    Location:
    Northern NJ
    Regular releases.

    Actually will be interesting to see when HL gets something new, since they only got their set of exclusives pretty recently.
     
    ebruce1361 likes this.
  22. Oct 14, 2019 #22

    rharshberger

    rharshberger

    rharshberger

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2014
    Messages:
    8,376
    Likes Received:
    796
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Pasco, WA
    I would like to see a list of who else has exclusive kits like Hobby Lobby or if HL is the only one with that agreement.
     
  23. Oct 14, 2019 #23

    ebruce1361

    ebruce1361

    ebruce1361

    The man with the plan. And some duct tape.

    Joined:
    May 14, 2018
    Messages:
    114
    Likes Received:
    40
    Location:
    Pinellas County, Florida
    I think something like that might be a question that Estes customer service could answer. It's not proprietary like HOW the partnership works, and it would benefit Estes to let their customers know where to go to get their products. Some companies will actually display "(insert store name) EXCLUSIVE ONLY!" on their websites (eg, Hasbro's Transformers toys and Target stores). I haven't seen that kind of advertising on Estes' site, but it would behoove them to do so.
     
  24. Oct 14, 2019 #24

    neil_w

    neil_w

    neil_w

    When in doubt, add more rocket TRF Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2015
    Messages:
    6,531
    Likes Received:
    930
    Location:
    Northern NJ
    I will be *very* surprised if anyone other than HL has such an agreement. What other retailer drives as much rocket sales to justify it?
     
    SecondRow likes this.
  25. Oct 14, 2019 #25

    kuririn

    kuririn

    kuririn

    BARGeezer TRF Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2016
    Messages:
    2,459
    Likes Received:
    598
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Hawaii
    +1. IIRC Estes was in danger of losing HL as a retailer, so they came up with the exclusivity deal. Win/win for both, as Estes stays in HL stores and HL gets to sell kits that nobody else has.
     
  26. Oct 14, 2019 #26

    Mugs914

    Mugs914

    Mugs914

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2012
    Messages:
    656
    Likes Received:
    156
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Temple Texas
    At great prices!

    Also, it looks like at least some of the HL exclusives are re-badged versions the regular fleet. See the Epic II two-stager that I mentioned over in the "what did you do today" thread. Same kit as the Sterling Silver but with a new name and decal.
     
  27. Oct 14, 2019 #27

    Initiator001

    Initiator001

    Initiator001

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2009
    Messages:
    2,766
    Likes Received:
    56
    The initial Pro Series II kit releases were a failure for Estes.
    The kits did not sell at their SRP prices. They only sold/became popular when the kits were clearance/close-out priced.
    Not making the motors for these products (re-labeled AeroTech) also provided less profit margin.

    I think Estes is doing okay with current Pro Series kits like the Super Big Bertha and Star Orbiter. More kits like these is what Estes should be working on.
     
  28. Oct 14, 2019 #28

    BSNW

    BSNW

    BSNW

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2017
    Messages:
    373
    Likes Received:
    94
    Okay, fair enough...but Maybe they could make some more offerings (for 2020) for the 29mm black powder motors. Maybe make a reasonably priced Pro-Series kit/line...I think most folks DONT purchase kits at SRP..Maybe a good, fairly priced Pro-Series kit/line on 29mm BP motors or dual 24mm D12's can do well. I am just saying that there could be a market for larger rockets for Estes, more than a Big Bertha and Star Orbiter....I think the climate has changed considerably and there are folks who would purchase them....IMO. When you got a guy cloning the Pro-Series II kits and selling them on the internet.....I think this could be a sign that larger kits can sell and make Estes money....and us happy!

    BTW....There are companies that make rockets that that they don't sell motors for....and still generate a profit. What if Estes made some good 3" and 4" pro series kits and then let the customer get their own 29mm motors? I bet if they had some style and flew well they would sell. See...LOC, Mad Cow and others who sell larger kits.
    Andrew
     
    Last edited: Oct 14, 2019
    comodelbuilder likes this.
  29. Oct 14, 2019 #29

    kuririn

    kuririn

    kuririn

    BARGeezer TRF Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2016
    Messages:
    2,459
    Likes Received:
    598
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Hawaii
    Before they start selling a two engine cluster model they had better upgrade their igniters, oops, starters.
    Notice they don't have ANY clustered models in production now?
     
    r12ski likes this.
  30. Oct 14, 2019 #30

    BSNW

    BSNW

    BSNW

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2017
    Messages:
    373
    Likes Received:
    94
    I have done a ton of clusters in my day and did not have too much trouble. This is a simple "problem" to solve. As long as it can still safely fly if one out of two lights....your good. At least that's how I did it....it was a hoot of a good time. The most I did on Estes motors was 4 at a time. Worked great.
     

Share This Page