Nov 01 02:54:08 <Pem> Living close to the city blows
Nov 01 02:54:30 <Peartree> I hope never to live near the city again.
Nov 01 02:54:47 <Pem> Yesterday I was actually considering micro max just so I could fly in the back yard
Nov 01 02:55:16 <Pem> We are in the "burbs" but that is too close for me
Nov 01 02:55:49 <Pem> But that would open a whole new area for us
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Nov 01 02:56:18 <Pem> We could produce a lot of tiny cool kits
Nov 01 02:56:44 <Pem> The floor is open for questions
Nov 01 02:56:48 <Pem> comment
Nov 01 02:56:54 <Pem> or accusations
Nov 01 02:56:59 <les> Sorry - MMX does not "do it" for me
Nov 01 02:57:13 <Pem> I never even considered it before either
Nov 01 02:57:24 <les> I went quiet since I seem to be monopolizing the chat. I do want to take the opportunity to thank you for all the great kits - different from the standard 3FNC
Nov 01 02:57:27 <RandyT0001> Sorry to interrupt but my chat connection was fubar'd before Hope I didn't miss much (just an hour)
Nov 01 02:57:39 <Pem> But being able to step out back and burn a couple is an attractive alternative
Nov 01 02:58:01 <Pem> Thank you Les
Nov 01 02:58:07 <Pem> That is our goal
Nov 01 02:58:13 <Pem> More than 3FNC
Nov 01 02:58:30 <Pem> Actually, that is why our first kit was the 3FNC
Nov 01 02:58:56 <Pem> sort of a poke in the eye of all those boring tube and fin jobs out there
Nov 01 03:00:01 <Peartree> Ever thought about gliders?
Nov 01 03:00:11 <Pem> But, I have to say that the rocket industry is now producing the greatest variaty of kits sonce the ole' Mars Lander and Andromeda days
Nov 01 03:00:25 <Pem> Actually..
Nov 01 03:00:28 <Pem> *cough*
Nov 01 03:00:35 <Pem> I have never flown one..
Nov 01 03:01:01 <Pem> Well, I have flown aa SST glider and the old Estes floding wing job
Nov 01 03:01:19 <Pem> What is that kit called?
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Nov 01 03:01:53 <Pem> Welcome back Randy, we are just getting started
Nov 01 03:02:52 <RandyT0001> When you design a model do you start with concept and draw some or do you see something (like a car body styling or plane) and proceed from there?
Nov 01 03:03:08 <Pem> Good question....
Nov 01 03:03:28 <Pem> Yhe process is self running
Nov 01 03:03:56 <Pem> Usually I will see something, in my head or a car, or an other object and the wheels start turning
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Nov 01 03:04:50 <Pem> My favorite method is watching old sci-fi movies
Nov 01 03:05:15 <Pem> finding a wiicked cool silver ship that was never meant to fly
Nov 01 03:05:23 <Pem> then reverse engineering it
Nov 01 03:05:39 <Pem> and then make it fly
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Nov 01 03:06:08 <les> Do you use any design software, like spacecad or rocksim?
Nov 01 03:06:14 <Pem> On occasion I have started out with an ide that I wanted
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Nov 01 03:06:38 <Pem> like a heavy lift vehicle or a manne launch vehicle
Nov 01 03:06:55 <Pem> I use Rocksim
Nov 01 03:07:21 <Pem> It will simulate most of the design I come up with
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Nov 01 03:07:39 <Pem> but there are those that I just have to eyeball
Nov 01 03:08:07 <Pem> But that is usually the last step..
Nov 01 03:09:16 <Pem> Trudy is trying to log on but is having troub;e
Nov 01 03:09:30 <Pem> it is telling her, Invalid User Name
Nov 01 03:09:40 <Pem> can we get a hand?
Nov 01 03:09:53 <WiK> hmm
Nov 01 03:09:56 <WiK> what's her TRF username?
Nov 01 03:10:27 <Pem> PemTech's Squeeze
Nov 01 03:10:38 * WiK won't ask...
Nov 01 03:11:00 <Pem> hee hee hee
Nov 01 03:11:04 * WiK digs up an alternative link, 1 moment
Nov 01 03:11:15 <Pem> Cool...
Nov 01 03:11:25 <Pem> Any other questions while we wiat?
Nov 01 03:11:29 <Pem> wait..
Nov 01 03:11:40 <Pem> dman spillng
Nov 01 03:12:11 <RandyT0001> Do you use software (like RocSim, VCP, etc.) to help design rockets?
Nov 01 03:12:14 <WiK> ok, send her here -
https://www.mibbit.com/chat/?server=irc.hashnet.org&channel=#TheRocketryForum
Nov 01 03:12:24 <Pem> Yes, Rocksim
Nov 01 03:12:57 <WiK> if you have any more trouble I'd sugggest that link, Randy
Nov 01 03:13:21 <les> Before you discussed #17 briefly - it looks similar to the old Estes Manta. Is it based on that?
Nov 01 03:14:23 <Pem> Yes, that was the original seed of idea
Nov 01 03:14:56 <Pem> ALways loved tail rings and it is such a clssic
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Nov 01 03:15:20 <les> It looks like it had a hard landing (or 2)
Nov 01 03:15:26 <Pem> Care to guess what the nose cone is made of
Nov 01 03:15:39 <WiK> tic tac box?
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Nov 01 03:15:58 <Pem> Yes, I didn't have a small enough chute and tried a streamer
Nov 01 03:16:02 <Pem> SMASH!
Nov 01 03:16:10 <Pem> nope
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Nov 01 03:18:03 <Pem> Trudy is still have trouble, give me a sec
Nov 01 03:18:17 <RandyT0001> My chat interface is not working well. I hope there will be a posted chat log on TRF. Later
Nov 01 03:18:22 <WiK> wait a sec
Nov 01 03:18:28 <WiK> try going here instead -
https://www.mibbit.com/chat/?server=irc.hashnet.org&channel=#TheRocketryForum
Nov 01 03:18:33 <WiK> might be a bit more stable
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Nov 01 03:19:18 <les> What is the nose cone made from?
Nov 01 03:19:20 <Pem> Nope...
Nov 01 03:19:29 <WiK> still no luck?
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Nov 01 03:19:42 <Pem> The nose cone is a Target pill bottle
Nov 01 03:19:50 <Pem> she is trying
Nov 01 03:20:01 <WiK> looks like she's already joined
Nov 01 03:20:01 * Pem very trying
Nov 01 03:20:02 <SooBaldwin> well going to call it an evening. Enjoyed my first chat, take care everyone...
Nov 01 03:20:08 <WiK> cya
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Nov 01 03:20:29 <Pem> OK, thanks!
Nov 01 03:21:06 <pemtech1j> OK, I am at the alternative site
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Nov 01 03:21:20 <pemtech1j> but she is only seeing one user
Nov 01 03:21:35 <WiK> does it say "Idlers, 12" or something like that under the user?
Nov 01 03:21:51 <pemtech1j> nope
Nov 01 03:21:53 <pemtech1j>
Nov 01 03:21:56 <WiK> hmm
Nov 01 03:22:08 <pemtech1j> Ok, here she is on my puter
Nov 01 03:22:21 <pemtech1j> Sorry guys.
Nov 01 03:22:34 <pemtech1j> Slower older computer -Truy
Nov 01 03:22:45 <pemtech1j> Slower computer-Trudy
Nov 01 03:23:01 <pemtech1j> I followed the link and darn it, sez nothing like this.
Nov 01 03:23:04 <WiK> it's our fault, we really need to get the chat setup better
Nov 01 03:23:13 <pemtech1j> Oh, great, now he's got my computer!! _EEk!
Nov 01 03:23:38 <pemtech1j> So, what's chatting about?
Nov 01 03:23:51 <les> we chat!
Nov 01 03:24:02 <pemtech1j> I see 4 folks listed, with 11 users...so ther are some lurkers out there!!
Nov 01 03:24:16 <pemtech1j> Anyone local?
Nov 01 03:24:27 <pemtech1j> Anyone have a Pemberton Tech rocket already?
Nov 01 03:24:34 <briancPASS> local to Planet Earth...
Nov 01 03:24:42 <pemtech1j> Snerk-!
Nov 01 03:24:59 <les> I've got 4, but I humbly admit I've only built the Kraken
Nov 01 03:25:07 <pemtech1j> lol, that's fine.
Nov 01 03:25:22 <pemtech1j> I don't even want to know how many my darling Layne has unbuilt.
Nov 01 03:25:28 <pemtech1j> I'm sure it's around 40!!
Nov 01 03:25:35 <briancPASS> I admited to not having any earlier, but have been eyeing the line-up
Nov 01 03:25:55 * briancPASS is now known as brainc
Nov 01 03:25:59 <pemtech1j> I recall seeing along thread about that a while back. The backload of shame.
Nov 01 03:26:04 * brainc is now known as brianc
Nov 01 03:26:08 <les> ONLY 40?
Nov 01 03:26:48 <pemtech1j> Er.. Layne sez "in the box or just laying around??" 8o
Nov 01 03:27:19 <pemtech1j> It may be my java is up to snuff.
Nov 01 03:27:36 <pemtech1j> Any ideas on gettin gme on there at same time, different computer??
Nov 01 03:27:55 <pemtech1j> It says I'm there by whatever I type doesn't post, and it lists having only 1 user.
Nov 01 03:28:06 <WiK> did you copy the URL or re-type it?
Nov 01 03:28:11 <pemtech1j> both
Nov 01 03:28:15 <WiK> hmm
Nov 01 03:28:24 <WiK> try going straight to
www.mibbit.com and...
Nov 01 03:28:26 <pemtech1j> @Les How did your build of the Kraen go?
Nov 01 03:28:53 <WiK> hit "Start Chatting Now", on the next page click the Server link
Nov 01 03:29:02 <les> Great - nice and simple. Flew great. I did a writeup in EMRR
Nov 01 03:29:19 <WiK> put irc.hashnet.org as the server address, whatever you want for a nick and #TheRocketryForum in the channel box, and hit Go
Nov 01 03:29:20 <pemtech1j> Did you stick with the so far "traditional" black and red pain job? -asks the glorified Art Department of Pemtec