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Not really a technically correct title, but I wanted to steal it anyway.
Suddenly, putting together all of the incredibly obvious circumstantial evidence known from day one which got people banned on YouTube, Facebook and Twitter is OK and not "xenophobic."
A former Clinton administration NSC official and a member of the WHO advisory committee on genetic engineering says the Chinese did not allow the WHO-led team to carry out a full and unrestricted inquiry into the origin of the coronavirus outbreak.
Amazing 48 seconds from a segment on 60 Minutes:
The full segment:
What happened in Wuhan? Why questions still linger on the origin of the coronavirus
A lack of transparency from Chinese officials and looming geopolitical consequences have damaged the credibility of a WHO-led inquiry into how the virus that causes COVID-19 originated. Lesley Stahl reports.
www.cbsnews.com
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"CCP's Useful Idiots": U.S. Rep Slams WHO COVID-Origin Whitewash Report
www.zerohedge.com
Republican Representative Lee Zeldin has blasted the World Health Organisation as China’s “useful idiots” after a draft version of its investigation into the origins of the coronavirus outbreak was revealed to have dismissed the lab leak theory as ‘extremely unlikely’.
Zeldin slammed China for “covering up to the world the pandemic’s origins” and called for a real independent investigation.
The WHO report repeats the often touted CCP explanation that the virus was likely transmitted to humans by animals, and did not come from a lab.
The notion that the virus came from a ‘wet market’ in Wuhan discounts the fact that cases were reported before localised outbreaks close to the market.
Last week, Dr. Robert Redfield, the former director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention under President Trump declared that he believes the virus originated in a lab in Wuhan, China.
It’s a theory that is supported by top US National Security officials in the US and Britain, as well as scores of virologists and other scientists.
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US National Security STILL Believes Coronavirus LEAKED From Chinese Lab
Senior US official says lab escape is most ‘credible’ theory
4 Jan 2021
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Former MI6 Head: Coronavirus Is Man-Made, Released From A Lab
Ex-MI6 chief Sir Richard Dearlove says China could be forced to pay ‘reparations’ to the rest of the world.
A prominent German scientist with the University of Hamburg released findings in February of a year long study that concludes the most likely cause of the coronavirus pandemic was a leak from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
As we highlighted last month, after spending months trying to negotiate the visit, WHO officials largely absolved China of blame for the COVID-19 pandemic after visiting a virus lab in Wuhan for just 3 hours.
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SARS escaped Beijing lab twice
Laboratory safety at the Chinese Institute of Virology under close scrutiny
Apr 25, 2004
www.the-scientist.com
The latest outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) in China, with eight confirmed or suspected cases so far and hundreds quarantined, involves two researchers who were working with the virus in a Beijing research lab, the World Health Organization (WHO) said on Monday (April 26).
“We suspect two people, a 26-year-old female postgraduate student and a 31-year-old male postdoc, were both infected, apparently in two separate incidents,” Bob Dietz, WHO spokesman in Beijing, told The Scientist.
The woman was admitted to hospital on April 4, but the man apparently became infected independently 2 weeks later, being hospitalized on April 17. Both worked at the Chinese Institute of Virology in Beijing, part of China's Center for Disease Control.
China has level three research guidelines and rules in place for handling the SARS virus, which are “of acceptable quality” to WHO, Dietz told The Scientist. But “it's a question of procedures and equipment. Frankly we are going to go in now a take a very close look,” he said.
In the meantime, the lab has been closed, and the 200 staff have been put in isolation in a hotel near another lab in Cham Ping, about 20 kilometers North of Beijing. China is rushing its own investigative teams to check lab security, according to state media.
Antoine Danchin, an epidemiologist with the Hong Kong University–Pasteur Research Center, who studied the SARS epidemic in Hong Kong, told The Scientist the latest incidents were probably the result of lab accidents.
“Normally, it's not possible to contaminate people even under level two confinement, if the security rules are obeyed, with the appropriate hoods, and so on,” Danchin said. SARS work requires level three. “So it suggests there has been some mishandling of something.”
“The lab might have all the right rules, but the people may not comply! For example, notebooks are not supposed to be taken out, a lot of things like that. A virus doesn't jump on people!” Danchin said.However WHO Beijing is relatively sanguine about the current threat, despite the fact that the 26-year-old infected had taken a long journey on the country's rail network. The index cases are known, and contacts had been traced, Dietz said. “We see no significant public health threat at this point.”
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China Vows To Put An End To "Lab Leakage Of Pathogenic Microorganisms And Various Samples"
13 Feb 2020
www.zerohedge.com
Seemingly providing more anecdotal evidence that the Covid-19 outbreak was caused by an accidental leak of a bio-engineered virus and not by some freak of nature in Wuhan's market, China's Communist Party has issued a serious "Wartime Order" demanding more care and containment be taken with virus handling. Specifically:
“Strengthen laboratory management and resolutely put an end to the theft, leakage, and loss of pathogenic bacteria (poisons) and various samples...”
["the THEFT"? - W]
... the idea that a Chinese lab could have a viral sample escape is well-documented – as mentioned, one lab in Beijing has had four separate incidents of the SARS virus leaking out accidentally.
“These narratives of escaped pathogens have common themes,” argued an analysis of biocontainment failures by medical historian Martin Furmanski in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists.
“There are unrecognized technical flaws in standard biocontainment...
The first infection, or index case, happens in a person not working directly with the pathogen that infects him or her, as in the smallpox and SARS escapes. Poor training of personnel and slack oversight of laboratory procedures negate policy efforts by national and international bodies to achieve biosecurity, as shown in the SARS and smallpox escapes.”
Suddenly, putting together all of the incredibly obvious circumstantial evidence known from day one which got people banned on YouTube, Facebook and Twitter is OK and not "xenophobic."
A former Clinton administration NSC official and a member of the WHO advisory committee on genetic engineering says the Chinese did not allow the WHO-led team to carry out a full and unrestricted inquiry into the origin of the coronavirus outbreak.
Amazing 48 seconds from a segment on 60 Minutes:
The full segment:
What happened in Wuhan? Why questions still linger on the origin of the coronavirus
A lack of transparency from Chinese officials and looming geopolitical consequences have damaged the credibility of a WHO-led inquiry into how the virus that causes COVID-19 originated. Lesley Stahl reports.
What happened in Wuhan? Why questions still linger on the origin of the coronavirus
A lack of transparency from Chinese officials and looming geopolitical consequences have damaged the credibility of a WHO-led inquiry into how the virus that causes COVID-19 originated. Lesley Stahl reports.
www.cbsnews.com
---------
"CCP's Useful Idiots": U.S. Rep Slams WHO COVID-Origin Whitewash Report
Zerohedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
www.zerohedge.com
Republican Representative Lee Zeldin has blasted the World Health Organisation as China’s “useful idiots” after a draft version of its investigation into the origins of the coronavirus outbreak was revealed to have dismissed the lab leak theory as ‘extremely unlikely’.
Zeldin slammed China for “covering up to the world the pandemic’s origins” and called for a real independent investigation.
The WHO report repeats the often touted CCP explanation that the virus was likely transmitted to humans by animals, and did not come from a lab.
The notion that the virus came from a ‘wet market’ in Wuhan discounts the fact that cases were reported before localised outbreaks close to the market.
Last week, Dr. Robert Redfield, the former director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention under President Trump declared that he believes the virus originated in a lab in Wuhan, China.
It’s a theory that is supported by top US National Security officials in the US and Britain, as well as scores of virologists and other scientists.
---------
US National Security STILL Believes Coronavirus LEAKED From Chinese Lab
Senior US official says lab escape is most ‘credible’ theory
4 Jan 2021
---------
Former MI6 Head: Coronavirus Is Man-Made, Released From A Lab
Ex-MI6 chief Sir Richard Dearlove says China could be forced to pay ‘reparations’ to the rest of the world.
A prominent German scientist with the University of Hamburg released findings in February of a year long study that concludes the most likely cause of the coronavirus pandemic was a leak from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
As we highlighted last month, after spending months trying to negotiate the visit, WHO officials largely absolved China of blame for the COVID-19 pandemic after visiting a virus lab in Wuhan for just 3 hours.
---------
SARS escaped Beijing lab twice
Laboratory safety at the Chinese Institute of Virology under close scrutiny
Apr 25, 2004
SARS escaped Beijing lab twice
Laboratory safety at the Chinese Institute of Virology under close scrutiny
www.the-scientist.com
The latest outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) in China, with eight confirmed or suspected cases so far and hundreds quarantined, involves two researchers who were working with the virus in a Beijing research lab, the World Health Organization (WHO) said on Monday (April 26).
“We suspect two people, a 26-year-old female postgraduate student and a 31-year-old male postdoc, were both infected, apparently in two separate incidents,” Bob Dietz, WHO spokesman in Beijing, told The Scientist.
The woman was admitted to hospital on April 4, but the man apparently became infected independently 2 weeks later, being hospitalized on April 17. Both worked at the Chinese Institute of Virology in Beijing, part of China's Center for Disease Control.
China has level three research guidelines and rules in place for handling the SARS virus, which are “of acceptable quality” to WHO, Dietz told The Scientist. But “it's a question of procedures and equipment. Frankly we are going to go in now a take a very close look,” he said.
In the meantime, the lab has been closed, and the 200 staff have been put in isolation in a hotel near another lab in Cham Ping, about 20 kilometers North of Beijing. China is rushing its own investigative teams to check lab security, according to state media.
Antoine Danchin, an epidemiologist with the Hong Kong University–Pasteur Research Center, who studied the SARS epidemic in Hong Kong, told The Scientist the latest incidents were probably the result of lab accidents.
“Normally, it's not possible to contaminate people even under level two confinement, if the security rules are obeyed, with the appropriate hoods, and so on,” Danchin said. SARS work requires level three. “So it suggests there has been some mishandling of something.”
“The lab might have all the right rules, but the people may not comply! For example, notebooks are not supposed to be taken out, a lot of things like that. A virus doesn't jump on people!” Danchin said.However WHO Beijing is relatively sanguine about the current threat, despite the fact that the 26-year-old infected had taken a long journey on the country's rail network. The index cases are known, and contacts had been traced, Dietz said. “We see no significant public health threat at this point.”
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China Vows To Put An End To "Lab Leakage Of Pathogenic Microorganisms And Various Samples"
13 Feb 2020
Zerohedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
www.zerohedge.com
Seemingly providing more anecdotal evidence that the Covid-19 outbreak was caused by an accidental leak of a bio-engineered virus and not by some freak of nature in Wuhan's market, China's Communist Party has issued a serious "Wartime Order" demanding more care and containment be taken with virus handling. Specifically:
“Strengthen laboratory management and resolutely put an end to the theft, leakage, and loss of pathogenic bacteria (poisons) and various samples...”
["the THEFT"? - W]
... the idea that a Chinese lab could have a viral sample escape is well-documented – as mentioned, one lab in Beijing has had four separate incidents of the SARS virus leaking out accidentally.
“These narratives of escaped pathogens have common themes,” argued an analysis of biocontainment failures by medical historian Martin Furmanski in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists.
“There are unrecognized technical flaws in standard biocontainment...
The first infection, or index case, happens in a person not working directly with the pathogen that infects him or her, as in the smallpox and SARS escapes. Poor training of personnel and slack oversight of laboratory procedures negate policy efforts by national and international bodies to achieve biosecurity, as shown in the SARS and smallpox escapes.”
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