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Are you saying this project isn't scratchbuilt?IMO, none of what you are describing is scratch built.
http://jcrocket.com/ariane6.shtml
Are you saying this project isn't scratchbuilt?IMO, none of what you are describing is scratch built.
Are you saying this project isn't scratchbuilt?
http://jcrocket.com/ariane6.shtml
Can you build a complete rocket, nose cone to fins, on a laser cutter? Then insert a motor, a parachute and launch it? Nope.
<---- My reaction to an idea I just had while reading this. Thank you! More to come I hope!
But all the parts are either:Awesome project. A whole lot more going on there than just a 3d printed rocket.
<---- My reaction to an idea I just had while reading this. Thank you! More to come I hope!
Can you build a complete rocket, nose cone to fins, on a laser cutter? Then insert a motor, a parachute and launch it? Nope.
Geez that is beautiful. There are a number of reasons I would be reluctant to fly that. Might pucker myself right out of existence.
Fixed.I think trying to define "scratchbuilt" based on the tools used to produce the parts isunlikely to result in a consensusfolly.
And most of the people who said that were just poser wanna-bes who didn't even do their own developing and printing. And don't get me started on that silly, new-fangled "color" film and paper — the damn prints start to fade in less than 100 years!This reminds me of the “it isn’t photography unless you use film” folks when digital cameras came out.
Actually you kind of can CNC / Laser cut an entire rocket (not sure this model needs the cardboard tube inside and/or if this is much different than the 3D printed models that also often have a [at least an engine] tube stuck inside). Obviously this is a kit but its design suggests that a number of models could be designed and fully produced on CNC/Laser cutter --
https://www.rocketarium.com/Rockets/Mega-Rebel
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All those pieces have to be assembled, and the assembly is extensive. In the last photo alone there are 14 pieces.
I think you got an answer: the consensus seems to be that "scratchbuilt" refers to the amount of design of the model and work involved in creation of the parts, but whether the design is in your head or in CAD and tools are used to produce the parts isn't relevant.Again... the point is missed.
After a while, I confess, I skipped to the end and started typing. I've read enough that I think I understand the crux of the matter.Interesting. Sure, you're doing the "scratch design" but the "built" portion is being done by your printer, not you.
No, John, absolute statements are always wrong.[ B]ut absolute statements are often wrong.
Can you build a complete rocket, nose cone to fins, on a laser cutter? Then insert a motor, a parachute and launch it? Nope.
Take a deep breath... and ponder... if you 3d print a complete rocket (except for parachute and motor) again, I ask.
Seems more like a trolling question than anything else. What’s the point?
If you want to say that “rocket x” isn’t scratch built because “3D printing” that’s fine.
This reminds me of the “it isn’t photography unless you use film” folks when digital cameras came out.
I think the above quotes pretty much sum it up. Basically gatekeeping. I can't believe so many spent considerable time on this, including myself reading the entire thread. What on earth is the point other than the OP doesn't like it when folks with 3D printers say they 'scratch built' a rocket and the OP resents that and wanted the rest of us to confirm that feeling. Got mad and left when we all didn't.“Gatekeeping”: the World’s second oldest hobby.
I think the above quotes pretty much sum it up. Basically gatekeeping. I can't believe so many spent considerable time on this, including myself reading the entire thread. What on earth is the point other than the OP doesn't like it when folks with 3D printers say they 'scratch built' a rocket and the OP resents that and wanted the rest of us to confirm that feeling. Got mad and left when we all didn't.
Build a rocket and call it whatever you want. Unless you are entering a contest that has actual rules regarding construction, it's just silly semantics anyway.
Tony
When folks like @neil_w states he has "mixed feelings" to calling the mere question "folly", this is typical social media bullshit that is beneath the folks that are posting it.
I just realized that the issue being discussed is only marginally related to 3d printing. It is instead about quality.
I, therefore, reject the notion that this thread's underlying question has to do with quality.
Again... the point is missed.
Those are Hand Built rockets. All those pieces have to be assembled, and the assembly is extensive. In the last photo alone there are 14 pieces.
Machine Built; You can print a rocket with a 3D printer. Just two 3D printed pieces. Install the chute and the motor... it's done.
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I'm done. I'll bow out. Seemed like a legit question to me.
When folks like @neil_w states he has "mixed feelings" to calling the mere question "folly", this is typical social media bullshit that is beneath the folks that are posting it.
Might as well quote your entire post, it seems you bowed out due to the portions of your reply the you formatted with bold, trying to get us to understand that they are Machine Built, not Hand Built. You call BS on a response you don't like and hand wave it away as 'social media bs' and take your ball and go home.I was clear about why I bowed out.
Tell that to our QC guyI think that quality is in the eye of the beholder…
Who said anything about it being “superior”?What gets me / what I don't quite fathom, is how someone can balk at the 12 hrs it takes to put together & teh material contained in a "kit": paper tube, ply fins, epoxy, styrene NC, etc.. and think a 12hr print PLA 3D printed rocket is equal or superior..
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