You canI am aware of OR being volunteer. I totally respect all the work they do to make the program and offer it for free. I had not seen any info of any further progress on it so I thought I would ask. I also wonder about investing in RS as markoelsh mentioned above. I would like to see that thread if it can be found. I am using an old version of RS at this time (version 7) and I would love to use OR but I do not want java on my system with all the security issues. If they could make it work without java I would be using it in a heartbeat.