# Onboard video, what’s the latest and greatest?

### Help Support The Rocketry Forum:

#### Eyesinthesky

##### Well-Known Member
Or source?
Its an Inventor 2019 file. I should point out that there is an extrusion and sweep that are surpressed that allows for a cable to connect to the camera. I used these to remote trigger, HDMI cable, etc.

#### Attachments

• 408.3 KB Views: 6

TRF Supporter

TRF Supporter

#### Attachments

• 139.8 KB Views: 9
• 79.8 KB Views: 10
• 72.2 KB Views: 9
• 92 KB Views: 9
• 85.5 KB Views: 12
• 123.8 KB Views: 14

#### Eyesinthesky

##### Well-Known Member
I just invested in the Sony RX0 ii and designed a couple of shrouds for it.

Wish I knew about Doug's design, because I'm not happy how my 4in one turned out,
My design is based on the Von Karman equation then transitions to the box shape. The idea is to try to keep the drag down as much as reasonably possible.

#### Splinter

##### Active Member
Why buy a camera? Have a go at building one yourself.

#### GrouchoDuke

##### Well-Known Member
Why buy a camera? Have a go at building one yourself.
I've been thinking about doing that. You can get iPhone cameras as replacement parts (or pick your favorite phone). It's amazing how good those cameras are. A "little bit" of custom hardware & software can turn them into perfect rocket cameras. Bad part is how much time that "little bit" takes.

TRF Supporter

#### neil_w

##### Chuffed as ninepence
TRF Supporter
The Insta360 Go looks like it might be the new hotness. It currently only shoots 5 minutes of video, but it's tiny & the quality looks great. https://www.insta360.com/product/insta360-go
I dunno, it's expensive and 5 minutes is a really severe limitation. Also limited to 25 fps in high-res mode.

#### GrouchoDuke

##### Well-Known Member
I dunno, it's expensive and 5 minutes is a really severe limitation. Also limited to 25 fps in high-res mode.
I guess it's expensive compared to a keychain cam or Mobius, but it's a lot cheaper than a new GoPro. Good point about the frame rate. I really want at least 1080p at 60fps.

#### Alan R

##### Well-Known Member
has anybody ever tried one of these mini 1" cube cams? they look like they'd be cheap and lightweight, but curious about the actual functioning and quality.

#### gna

##### average joe-overbuild member
I bought one of those cheap SQ11 cameras. Somewhat blocky, but it worked for taking side video out of a modroc.

It's so cheap I've seriously considered cutting a square hole in a rocket and epoxying the camera in.
has anybody ever tried one of these mini 1" cube cams? they look like they'd be cheap and lightweight, but curious about the actual functioning and quality.
View attachment 420369
I looked up the SQ11; it looks much like the camera pictured here. I'm curious about mounting one to a rocket...

#### g.pitts

##### Well-Known Member
TRF Supporter
FWIW, I flew a Mobius Max yesterday on my L2 certification flight. Unfortunately, while on the rail, the camera locked-up and I got nada from the flight. I suspect it was the Eastern Oregon sun inducing an over-temp situation, but that's just a guess. It was on, but completely unresponsive until the battery ran down. I recharged it when I got home last night, and it seems to operate fine now but there was no recorded video.

Next flight will definitely be with the Sony RX0 ii.

#### Alan R

##### Well-Known Member
I looked up the SQ11; it looks much like the camera pictured here. I'm curious about mounting one to a rocket...
Looks like it would be a good 3D printer project for that. Design a mount for that to fit in a payload bay or on the exterior.

#### jahall4

##### Well-Known Member
FWIW, I flew a Mobius Max yesterday on my L2 certification flight. Unfortunately, while on the rail, the camera locked-up and I got nada from the flight. I suspect it was the Eastern Oregon sun inducing an over-temp situation, but that's just a guess. It was on, but completely unresponsive until the battery ran down. I recharged it when I got home last night, and it seems to operate fine now but there was no recorded video.

Next flight will definitely be with the Sony RX0 ii.
That's not good to hear. I've tested and got mine mounted. If it is suppose to work as a dash cam it would have to take a little heat.

#### g.pitts

##### Well-Known Member
TRF Supporter
That's not good to hear. I've tested and got mine mounted. If it is suppose to work as a dash cam it would have to take a little heat.

View attachment 422073
I was not thrilled. But on a cert flight, I suppose it's better losing video than something mission critical!

#### Eyesinthesky

##### Well-Known Member
Next flight will definitely be with the Sony RX0 ii.
Its always good advice to completely understand how your camera works and one critical comment about the RX0ii is its autofocusing system. When shooting video, it only focuses initially and does not focus continually like one would imagine. This could cause problems if you are standing in front of the camera when you push the record button. It could focus on you very close and objects at infinity might be out of focus. I get around this my manually setting the focus to just under two meters which is the Hyperfocal distance.

Doug

#### g.pitts

##### Well-Known Member
TRF Supporter
Its always good advice to completely understand how your camera works and one critical comment about the RX0ii is its autofocusing system. When shooting video, it only focuses initially and does not focus continually like one would imagine. This could cause problems if you are standing in front of the camera when you push the record button. It could focus on you very close and objects at infinity might be out of focus. I get around this my manually setting the focus to just under two meters which is the Hyperfocal distance.

Doug
That's a great tip, Doug. Thanks!

#### Leo

##### Well-Known Member
Here is a Mobius Mini that I use for mid power flights:

It's mounted open so it doesn't get a heat stroke.
I use this 3D printed part as camera mount: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3054167
(An early prototype mount was used in the video)

#### g.pitts

##### Well-Known Member
TRF Supporter
Here is a Mobius Mini that I use for mid power flights:

It's mounted open so it doesn't get a heat stroke.
I use this 3D printed part as camera mount: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3054167
(An early prototype mount was used in the video)
Great video!

That's a better solution for thermals without question. I made my own which covers a portion of all six sides so are to contain the camera. Unfortunately, it also contains thermal energy it seems - that's my working theory at least.

#### alexzogh

This video I did a long time ago is good, as I had both a cheap keychain camera, and a Mobius. You can clearly see how much better the Mobius is. Also had a GoPro on the pad - I think the Mobius is as good as the GoPro, at least the version I used (gopro 4). Jump to 3:07 to see the keychain vs Mobius

Made a Mobius rocket mount you can find here ready to 3d print.

I made it so you can easily modify it for any diameter rocket you have just by modifying the 'subtraction' cylinder size on tinkercad

#### alexzogh

I modified Doug's excellent shroud to fit a GoPro hero9. Notice the two lines in front, as the Hero9 has an integrated finger-mount.

Needed a long M5 bolt to go through the width of the shroud and the gopro finger mounts

The short of it - not a good solution. Since the bolt isn't sitting against the fingermount like a regular gopro mount, you can't tighten it down, so it remains loose in the shroud.

I could buy a skeleton cage with an integrated 1/4 tripod mount, but by the time I do all that you are in the price range of the sony camera.

#### Banzai88

##### Lvl 1,Wallet....Destroyed
has anybody ever tried one of these mini 1" cube cams? they look like they'd be cheap and lightweight, but curious about the actual functioning and quality.
View attachment 420369
For under $100 you can get a RunCam 5 Orange, considered by most FPV flyers to be 99% of a Go Pro Session (now a retired model)....and true 4K....plus continued product support. I'm working on cobbling together a shroud for one, and maybe a side looking internal mount as well. #### Alan R ##### Well-Known Member For under$100 you can get a RunCam 5 Orange,
Thank you for the review. I don't need 4k, and I'd prefer something under \$50, just in case of losing it