turbofireball
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I’m amazed how much of a reaction this is causing on the Estes Model Rockets fan FB page - more than the Saturns!My local hobby shop got some new Estes news today!
#9721 Der Big Red Max
This is the 3” upscale kit shown at the NARAM manufacturer’s forum earlier this year.
Pro Series II using E16-4 and F16-6 engines.
Image attached!!
A screen cap from that vNARAM video posted on FB showing the DBRM reminded me of the other upsized rocket coming in 21 - the big Mars Snooper. Doubt that one will be a PSII kit, from the picture I’d say 24mm powered rather than 29. I’d say the Langfords purchase of Estes has been a success...My local hobby shop got some new Estes news today!
#9721 Der Big Red Max
This is the 3” upscale kit shown at the NARAM manufacturer’s forum earlier this year.
Pro Series II using E16-4 and F16-6 engines.
Image attached!!
Cool...that means a new nosecone too!
If it does use the standard PSII/Big Daddy/Doorknob nose cone then that picture of the facecard/poster Turbofireball posted above has been seriously photoshopped!Are we 100% sure of this? An inspection of the V-NARAM Manufacturer's Forum video seems to indicate that the model shown there may simply be using the Doorknob nose cone. The painting directions for the kit may direct the builder to paint the top portion of the airframe tube black to cheat the eye.
I sincerely hope that there will be a new nose cone with a greater aspect ratio, but we've seen no concrete evidence yet.
James
Estes doesn’t sell a motor that can safely fly the MDRM. Unless they have a mad scientist developing some secret sauce high power BP formula it’s highly unlikely we’ll ever see big, heavy MPR/HPR kits from Estes again - the current PSII rockets that can fly on adapted 24mm BP motors looks like their plan for bigger rockets. Besides, why should they try to compete with all the other MPR/HPR companies in an area that’s not in their DNA or skill sets? Are the folks who regularly buy LOC, Madcow, Public Missiles, Sirius, Aerotech, Wildman, AMW, Performance Hobbies, etc rockets really going to buy enough big Estes rockets to make it a sustainable product for Estes?they should have never got rid of the 4" DRM
Estes was carrying the 4” MDRM nose cone and body tube, which satisfied most rocketeers. You could get the rest of the parts from other vendors. Unfortunately, it looks like they may have stopped. Last I checked only the body tube was in stock.Estes doesn’t sell a motor that can safely fly the MDRM. Unless they have a mad scientist developing some secret sauce high power BP formula it’s highly unlikely we’ll ever see big, heavy MPR/HPR kits from Estes again - the current PSII rockets that can fly on adapted 24mm BP motors looks like their plan for bigger rockets. Besides, why should they try to compete with all the other MPR/HPR companies in an area that’s not in their DNA or skill sets? Are the folks who regularly buy LOC, Madcow, Public Missiles, Sirius, Aerotech, Wildman, AMW, Performance Hobbies, etc rockets really going to buy enough big Estes rockets to make it a sustainable product for Estes?
I suspect that they're just out of stock on the NCs.Estes was carrying the 4” MDRM nose cone and body tube, which satisfied most rocketeers. You could get the rest of the parts from other vendors. Unfortunately, it looks like they may have stopped. Last I checked only the body tube was in stock.
I’m not going to speak definitively for Toby Vanderbeek of the great looking Vanderburn Rocketry PSII clones and Estes classic upsizes but iirc the account of his conversation with Estes customer service there are more 4” MDRM nose cones coming. Hope so, his MDRM clone looks like an improvement over the original.Estes was carrying the 4” MDRM nose cone and body tube, which satisfied most rocketeers. You could get the rest of the parts from other vendors. Unfortunately, it looks like they may have stopped. Last I checked only the body tube was in stock.
Estes doesn’t sell a motor that can safely fly the MDRM. Unless they have a mad scientist developing some secret sauce high power BP formula it’s highly unlikely we’ll ever see big, heavy MPR/HPR kits from Estes again - the current PSII rockets that can fly on adapted 24mm BP motors looks like their plan for bigger rockets. Besides, why should they try to compete with all the other MPR/HPR companies in an area that’s not in their DNA or skill sets? Are the folks who regularly buy LOC, Madcow, Public Missiles, Sirius, Aerotech, Wildman, AMW, Performance Hobbies, etc rockets really going to buy enough big Estes rockets to make it a sustainable product for Estes?
I’m not going to speak definitively for Toby Vanderbeek of the great looking Vanderburn Rocketry PSII clones and Estes classic upsizes but iirc the account of his conversation with Estes customer service there are more 4” MDRM nose cones coming. Hope so, his MDRM clone looks like an improvement over the original.
Oh yeah! An upgraded DBRM on a hot 29mm reload sounds like an awesome good time! After the Hoosiers and Buckeyes are done pummeling each other in the ‘Shoe I’m firing up OR for some sims...I also am not going to speak definitively for Toby Vanderbeek of the great looking Vanderburn Rocketry PSII clones, and Estes classic upscales, and the current PSII kit MPR/HPR upgrades, like the Doorknob plywood centering rings and fins — but what do you want to bet that if people ask nicely, he will make a fin and ring upgrade for this kit too?
I have a Doorknob and up grade coming from Tony. He only has 2 Doorknobs left.I also am not going to speak definitively for Toby Vanderbeek of the great looking Vanderburn Rocketry PSII clones, and Estes classic upscales, and the current PSII kit MPR/HPR upgrades, like the Doorknob plywood centering rings and fins — but what do you want to bet that if people ask nicely, he will make a fin and ring upgrade for this kit too?
Stop it, Estes! Far more *fantastic* new releases than I have time to build! On the build pile they go!
Of course! Maybe I should have added more winking emojis. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯DON'T SAY THAT!!!
These new owners are doing GREAT THINGS!
I don't want them to stop.
Even though I won't have the money to get everything, I am going to get what I can!
Estes has returned to what I remember them as a kid.
And I'm still a rocket kid at heart.
Keep it up Estes, your the GRRRRRR...EATEST!
An entire generation of BARs and L1s bought every Leviathan, Ventris, Argent, and 4" DRM that the could ship, as well as all the spare parts rockets that they sold direct.Estes doesn’t sell a motor that can safely fly the MDRM. Unless they have a mad scientist developing some secret sauce high power BP formula it’s highly unlikely we’ll ever see big, heavy MPR/HPR kits from Estes again - the current PSII rockets that can fly on adapted 24mm BP motors looks like their plan for bigger rockets. Besides, why should they try to compete with all the other MPR/HPR companies in an area that’s not in their DNA or skill sets? Are the folks who regularly buy LOC, Madcow, Public Missiles, Sirius, Aerotech, Wildman, AMW, Performance Hobbies, etc rockets really going to buy enough big Estes rockets to make it a sustainable product for Estes?
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