The Last Jedi.
Star Trek into Darkness.
Both struck a mortal wound to the value of thier "Golden Goose" franchises.
For me,
Star Trek Into Darkness was part of an entirely different franchise than real Star Trek, and that other franchise didn't need any more mortal wounding that it started out with.
I will point out that the episodic follow-up grossed over 1 billion...
I have no very strong opinion about TLJ, but I will point out that profitability does not equal quality except in the eyes of the studio bean counters.
Star Trek: The Motion Picture
My friends and I call it
Start Trek The Motion Sickness.
All numbers rounded to the nearest million:
The Force Awakens Box Office Gross: $2,065 million
The Last Jedi Box Office Gross: $1,332 million
The Rise of Skywalker Box Office Gross: $1,073 million
I think that's enough said.
Again, profitability does not equal quality. OK, one more thing; I'd argue that as far as story goes,
Rise of Skywalker is worse then
The Last Jedi. Palpatine lived? What is this BS?! Darth Pansy is Anakin's grandson, so Rey has to be Palpatine's granddaughter; "I say you made me, so then you've got to say I made you." Luke's dying fake-out was awesome by comparison.
The Book of Boba Fett was definitely bloated — almost as bloated as Boba himself appeared in that armor.
To me, the story just didn’t make much sense. He becomes a crime lord and takes over a criminal organization in order to no longer do crime? Not sure how that works. Anyway, I still found the series entertaining, even if it didn’t hang together very well.
I enjoyed Kenobi, although it has issues too. I really liked Andor, although I suspect not everyone did — that show had the feel of being “Star Wars for adults”, and probably little appeal to kids. And I love the Mandalorian — that one has something for everyone, I think.
Overall, I am really enjoying the Disney+ series. I’m looking forward to the return of Mando and the new Ashoka show, which I think is coming in 2023.
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@neil_w, I spent the entire BoBF waiting for it to get good, but it never did. After the first three (I think) episodes of Kenobi I got the distinct feeling that I was in for the same experience, so i stopped. Which is a real shame because (for me) Obi Wan is a better character for a miniseries than Boba Fet in the first place; I never understood why people were into Boba Fet to start with (I'd rather have Boba BJT or Boba Tea
) so his failing to be interesting later was not a big deal, but Obi Wan failing to be interesting really made me sad.
Ok, I feel I must say it: I wish I had never seen ANY of the JJ Abrams Star Drek abominations. In fact I'm all for creating a temporal incursion to remove them from our spacetime continuum entirely.
I'd hit "Like" many time over and over if I could.
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I have two. First:
The Godfather. It's about, what, two and a half hours? but feels like six, of horrible people doing horrible things, mostly to each other. The only good part was the climax where lots of mobsters died. The more dead mobsters, the better. That's six hours of my life that I'll never get back. (If it's really only two and a half hours then I'm sure it took another three and a half off my life anyway.)
Second:
The Matrix.
I've never seen any of those. Why would I bother when the first one made absolutely no sense at all? "This is you" says Laurence Fishburne, holding up a battery. The computers get power from the heat that people make; well just burn the carbohydrates you're feeding them in a steam generator, ferchrisakes! The computers are afraid that humans will figure out that their world is controlled by computers; well, since you control the world, don't let them learn about computers, keep them in the dark ages when people believed that the world was controlled by gods. "You have to watch the next ones, then it'll make sense", my friends tell me. But, I repeat, why would I bother watching the next one when the first one stinks?!!
