I would submit an unpainted rocket is an unfinished/not complete rocket.Just ask the guys that dont paint their rockets
In that case, I would think that the Saturn V and Saturn 1B would have to be at the top of the list. Paint on those guys is a huge amount of work.See what you mean, but I don't know how one can remove finish work from the build process. Its all part of the build. The Odyssey was much harder to build than paint for me. If memory serves me I think I posted mine on the forums a while back....at least I am pretty sure. It was a tough one for me at least.
YUUP! I learned that for sure! Boy did I ever....I am looking forward to my next try on the Saturn 1B. I am really going to try and nail it next time. It is a very challenging kit finish.In that case, I would think that the Saturn V and Saturn 1B would have to be at the top of the list. Paint on those guys is a huge amount of work.
If that's what you enjoy, then that is absolutely true for your fleetI would submit an unpainted rocket is an unfinished/not complete rocket.
Very well said and absolutely true. However, I was speaking within the context and scope of the original poster for the most challenging Estes build. I think specialized HP and competition rockets fall out of the scope of the thread. But you are right, there are some who have valid reasons to not paint. But in most cases, one does not see unpainted rockets. I have never seen a naked Interceptor, Saturn or Mars Snooper etc.If that's what you enjoy, then that is absolutely true for your fleet
For the extreme flyers, the most important thing is the data that comes out during flight, and finish is just a means of smoothing the surface (or just a layer to ablate away at M2.7)
For the contest (non-scale) folk, paint is optional as they tread the fine line between smooth surface and weight reduction.
For still others, a rocket has to survive a flight before they take the trouble to paint it.
That's the wonderful thing about rockets, there's a dozen different ways to enjoy the hobby
I cringe to think of it too!! I will say I am pretty good with decals but the Interceptor-E decals are some of the most difficult I have ever done. They are thin and very big. MAN...those decals made that rocket both beautiful AND difficult!!A naked Interceptor would be criminal.
Oh that's for sure! I built the original Estes Saturn 1B in the mid 1970's. This was the version where you had to sand and shape each wooden escape tower piece to specific tenths of an inch according to the instructions. No plastic pieces whatsoever. Took me 8 months working after work and school. Came out fantastic.The 1/70 scale Saturn 1B is the most challenging Estes kit ever, hands down.
If you build it, take a look at RocketReviews reviews and comments. Lots of stuff that looks helpful. Seems like most success had been upgrading to 24mm, but not so sure that the return of the C5-3 and the EconoJet Ds might work stock. C6-3 is generally a no go. One reviewer suggested you COULD use an A8-3 in your living room, but only with a vaulted ceilingThere are lots of posts about this wee beastie, but not enough to put me off wanting one. Anyone in Oz have one to sell?
When I modified the kit for 24MM motors, that squeezed the space for the dowels that are part of the leg hinge. Then, for whatever reason, (maybe a builder screw up???), I had trouble getting all the little tank thingies to fit in. It's a kit that's just not very tolerant of making even the tiniest building error. That, and painting it is a PITA.I’ve got one unbuilt. Care to share the SNAFUs, or too many to count?
would you stay stock now that the Estes C5-3 and Quest D12-4s are out?When I modified the kit for 24MM motors, that squeezed the space for the dowels that are part of the leg hinge. Then, for whatever reason, (maybe a builder screw up???), I had trouble getting all the little tank thingies to fit in. It's a kit that's just not very tolerant of making even the tiniest building error. That, and painting it is a PITA.
I have a stock one.would you stay stock now that the Estes C5-3 and Quest D12-4s are out?
I built the Estes Jayhawk kit years ago....very difficult kit to build and finish. Never liked the side parachute technique they used having the string hang out....crazy kit.View attachment 376858
I wasn't sure if you meant from the current kits of today, or from all time. I remember building the Centuri Magnum Jayhawk as a kid being pretty challenging with large wing fins and T tails with sanded tapered edges, a big cardstock transition boat tail, you had to split another smaller body tube and a balsa cone for a conduit, and some balsa and dowel antennas or air probes, and card stock canards. It was a fairly involved build for a 13-14 yr old. But looked really cool and flew great on D engines. Other than the Saturn V and that Redstone dowel tower, the Jayhawk was one that stands out in my memory, as a challenge and really worth the effort.