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lol! Mercury Redstone , that lower tower looks awesome! Maybe ask him for more pics to prove it's scale?
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I think that's the old, OLD Estes Mercury-Redstone kit, which featured a balsa nose cone and a completely build-it-yourself escape tower made out of wooden dowels. Man, that thing was a PIA to build. If you think it's a hassle getting the PLASTIC one put together right... :rolleyes:

This model, you could probably restore and bring back up to snuff pretty easily. You'd have to replace the rudder fins on the end of each fin, and rebuild that escape tower, and repaint. Wouldn't be too impossible to do. IF they were willing to sell it for a couple bucks, might be worth a toss...
 

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Another thing that I noticed was a starting price of $8.31...

where did *that* come from?? :p
 

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Theres no doubt that we here on the forum know what it is, its just that the seller has no clue. Jim, maybe $8.31 is the time that he found it in a dumpster somewhere? Sorry, I've been watching C.S.I.
 

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takes all kinds I guess - let's see, $8.31 + $7.11 for shipping, not bad for an old rocket that looks just like the real one! :p
 

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He's over charging, I have one of those still in the bag from 1971 with the balsa nose cone Estes #KC-41, I only paid $3.50 for it back then. I still even have a copy of my original order form that Gleda signed off on.

Bruce S. Levison, NAR #69055
 

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Originally posted by teflonrocketry1
He's over charging, I have one of those still in the bag from 1971 with the balsa nose cone Estes #KC-41, I only paid $3.50 for it back then. I still even have a copy of my original order form that Gleda signed off on.


I'll pay you $3.50, inflation adjusted to be fair, for it.


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I don't know Bill,
Adjusting for inflation I think $7.00 would be more fair. Heres mine, I THINK Vern or Gleda MIGHT have breathed on it back in the 70s.
 

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I bet the rocket on ebay has more history, than those unopend packages
 

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Cool; I will give you $10.00 for the original!!
I had an original back then, Launched it with a C6-3 I think & it went up about 50 feet & then did a 90 deg turn horizontal!! I think it's sill orbiting !!
$8.31? Weird!
You see every thing on ebay from time to time-hurricane air in a tub(sealed!!) with at least a $10.00 bid!!
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Stymye,

It depends on how you define history. Built, launched once, busted up then sitting in a box in the basement doesn't mean much history to me.

That Mercury Redstone of mine that was unopened belonged to a man named Herb Desind. He was a science teacher at Laurel High School in Laurel Maryland. He was known for his amazing Cineroc films that he took all over the world. I first met him in 1980 at the Pearl River Model Rocket Seminar in Pearl River New York giving a talk on model rocket photography. His was always the most popular lecture and everyone looked forward to it every year. His involvement with kids and model rocketry got hundreds if not thousands of children into the hobby of model rocketry. He did demonstrations all over the place and participated in the bi-monthly launches at the Goddard Space Flight Center religiously. When I used to visit my Brother in Maryland I always used to spend time with Herb building rockets, flying cameras and looking through his collection of old kits. He was a great friend to me and the hobby.

A few years back Herb died very suddenly in his 40s from complications after routine surgery. His father who knew we were friends (I was a paw bearer at his funeral) gave his collection to me. When I look at any of these kits they represent a great deal of history to me and I will never part with them. Herb was the reason I got into model rocketry and have stayed with it for 25 years. Air & Space magazine recently did a story on him and the collection he had of tens of thousands of pictures of rockets, missiles, spacecraft and satellites that was donated to the Smithsonian after his death.

So don't assume history where there may be none and don't think that an unopened kit is just a bunch of parts that no one bothered to assemble.
 

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I can see your point on that one, the kit holds some memories for you, there are always exceptions.
 

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Originally posted by rokitflite
I don't know Bill,
Adjusting for inflation I think $7.00 would be more fair. Heres mine, I THINK Vern or Gleda MIGHT have breathed on it back in the 70s.

I still have and fly mine from back in the 3.50 days. I actually built that tower in a hotel room with on a business trip;) Kept me out of the bar... it's one of less than a half dozen model from my first fleet that escaped destruction by a bunch of vandals in the mid 70's. What a fine flying model.

I'm with ya on Herbs collection Scott. Like most science teachers a bit on the Odd side..Paul Miller also comes to mind:D but a great guy, He is missed at the Goddard SFC launches.
 

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Originally posted by Aron Sanford
Cool; I will give you $10.00 for the original!!
I had an original back then, Launched it with a C6-3 I think & it went up about 50 feet & then did a 90 deg turn horizontal!! I think it's sill orbiting !!
$8.31? Weird!
You see every thing on ebay from time to time-hurricane air in a tub(sealed!!) with at least a $10.00 bid!!
Aron
:D

I think I will hold on to my Estes Mercury-Redstone a little longer; since its not worth that much, I will probably give it to my youngest son who is also into rocketry.

Bruce S. Levison, NAR #69055
 

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I had to try to help the person out so I sent this to them:

I see that this is the second time you are posting this so in the event that it does not sell again let me help you with a couple of things for the item description next time:
1: This is not a "Freedom" rocket, it is a Mercury Redstone, Estes kit #1241. The capsule was named Freedom 7 by its pilot Alan Shepard.
2: It is not in great shape, the escape tower is missing off of the top, and the end of all of the fins are broken off.
If you are just looking to get rid of it you may want to start it at $1. Just FYI.
 

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I guess I would say it's in 'reasonably good' or maybe 'nominally restorable' condition.

If you wanted to have the original Estes kit from the 1960s, it'd be worth a couple bucks, then spend maybe $10 bucks fixing it back up, refinishing, etc.

I don't think they're out to defraud anybody or are maintaining the rocket is anything that it's not - I just think they really don't know what it is.

And anybody who is going to be interested in buying it - at all - is probably going to know what it is just by looking at it.
 

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Originally posted by rokitflite
I had to try to help the person out so I sent this to them:

I see that this is the second time you are posting this so in the event that it does not sell again let me help you with a couple of things for the item description next time:
1: This is not a "Freedom" rocket, it is a Mercury Redstone, Estes kit #1241. The capsule was named Freedom 7 by its pilot Alan Shepard.
2: It is not in great shape, the escape tower is missing off of the top, and the end of all of the fins are broken off.
If you are just looking to get rid of it you may want to start it at $1. Just FYI.

I told them pretty much the same a week ago.

They re-placed the ad, without chaning it, in a completely inappropriate place: antique silverware.
 

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For those of you that have not been following this saga, this guy has now listed this POS for like the fifth time. He has ignored several emails trying to help him with the item description and has not changed the price. I figure he is up to at least $4 in listing fees. This time I sent him an email letting him know we were amused by his persistence.

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20109&item=3755380577&rd=1
 

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This is where the guy has this poor battered, broken sad rocket...

Antiques > Silver > Sterling > Flatware > Reed & Barton..

Too bad for the rocket that the fellow does not seem to be the sharpest tool in the shop...
 

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Reed & Barton, Estes/rockets, silverware. I mean really, whats the difference.
 

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What's interesting, though, is the 98.9% feedback, with over 1600 feedbacks... Very weird...
 

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Still,
It does mean that 18 people were so unhappy that they left negative feedback. Alot of people WON'T leave negative feedback for fear of getting it themselves! I have 641 feedback with 100% positive and no neutrals. I would say becareful if you choose to bid on this piece of flatware!
 

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Did anybody take a look at the stuff he is selling? It looks like he is a junk dealer.

I can see where he might have such a high rating...You do not expect much when buying other peoples cast-offs.
 

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Ok one ore Email attempt to turn on his sanity switch.


Just F.Y.I That is a "Mercury Redstone" Rocket and its not in good shape several parts are missing. We at the Rocketry Forum have been watching this thing being relisted what now 4 times? You might want to drop your asking price to 1.00. Just some friendly advice.
 

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Wow,
You were a lot nicer than my last email:

Dear llihf,

Hi, myself and another friend of mine emailed you about how wrong your description of this model was weeks ago. You obviously ignored it and now you have it listed for what? The fifth time? Our rocketry forum is getting a great deal of entertainment over the fact that you keep doing this. Keep it up!
 
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