I did my L2 on the Warlock (J350W)... If you build it strong enough to grow (like glassing and converting to fins that attach to the motor mount and even using a 54mm motor mount) you might find it a bit underpowered on L1 motors.Originally posted by r1dermon
im looking for a low flying easy lvl 1 cert bird. right now im checking out the LOC warlock, anyone ever certed on this before? i love its size and its motor options.
Takes the fun outa building a L2 bird .Originally posted by r1dermon
yeah, i was also looking at the iroc. but i wanted originality. and the sheer size of the warlock is quite impressive. especially since it can ride on lvl 1 motors. plus, if i get my lvl 2, i already would have a bird to cert with.
You certainly have the right idea about certifying (& post-certification flights). There's nothing wrong with being "economical" either Plenty of folks have used the same rocket for L1 & L2 flights. The LOC Warlok would be an excellent choice because of the large diameter--in fact, it's one of the few kits that you could even safely do a "slow & low" L1 cert flight on with an I motor. But once you've got that paper signed off, break out the fancy stuff & let 'em ripOriginally posted by r1dermon
takes the worry out of certing...
plus, after that i can go crazy with the extremely high performance birds(not necessarilly at CMASS. im talking about some super high flights at LDRS or something.) im probably going to join tripoli. but im not sure yet. i still havent joined either NAR or tripoli. so thats another thing that must be dealt with.
mmmm, i can smell an L motor already.
You might want to check out the Polecat Thumper then too... 'Glassed airframe & nosecone plus I've read several TRFers who requested larger/additional MMTs at the time of ordering (like upgrading to a 54mm MMT or adding 29 or 38mm outboards). Price is only a little more than retail for the WarlokOriginally posted by r1dermon
i love stubby rockets, and the warlock is the biggest one i've seen, so it really got my attention. its so huge. lol.
I think you'll be hard pressed to find a rocket that will stay under 3K on a K and still be lifted by a level 1 motor...Get something that will handle H's, I's and J's, then build something else for the K.Originally posted by r1dermon
niiice. im definately looking for something that will do low altitude on a K. like, under 3,000'. because eventually i want to cert lvl 2 and if i get the warlock i'd like to use it to cert lvl 2 as well. plus, i'd love to burn a K and to do that at CMASS, i have to keep it under 3000'.
I have to admit, don't dismiss the Art Applewhite saucer recommendation so quickly... You say what you said now but after you see one actually fly, it's QUITE likely that you could change your opinion. Art makes some excellent kits. Don't let their simplicity fool you. They ALWAYS get a crowd's attention!Originally posted by r1dermon
lol, yeah, i've seen those. im not big into the whole cone scene. i like the process of building the rocket. knowing that if you scimped on something, you'll pay for it when that baby touches down...however soft or hard. i also like the looks of a rocket better, and the sheer size of a lvl 1-2 bird is quite impressive.
My sentiments exactly. Also, I haven't built one of Art's 38mm saucers, but I have built some 18 and 24 mm ones. They go together quickly, but, they do require some skill in getting them together correctly. I would imagine the 38mm ones especially.Originally posted by lalligood
I have to admit, don't dismiss the Art Applewhite saucer recommendation so quickly... You say what you said now but after you see one actually fly, it's QUITE likely that you could change your opinion. Art makes some excellent kits. Don't let their simplicity fool you. They ALWAYS get a crowd's attention!
Actually it's not that hard. All you need to do is to make a large diameter, light weight rocket.I think you'll be hard pressed to find a rocket that will stay under 3K on a K and still be lifted by a level 1 motor...Get something that will handle H's, I's and J's, then build something else for the K.