Joe Rocket 97
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Flightsketch.com has the LOC IV in stock and they're having a sale . Russ is a great guy to do business with
Wildman Rocketry (the web store) offers a 'club'; a discount club. Membership is $30 a year, but you get some great deals & a certain % off everything site-wide. Especially today [Wednesday Nov 24th]: the pre-black Friday sale!! Only available to members. But his regular BF sale is this week-end. Many of us are a part of his "club", for the deals & discounts..
Our club takes advantage of this sale for our yearly motor needs. and we have our orders shipped to one location. So, we save: by being a member, by being a member on Black Friday, by combining all our orders into one shipment [reduced shipping charge] and one HAZMAT fee for everyone! (Well, one per box)
His membership pays for itself if you buy lots; motors, and if you plan to buy a big kit.. but likely won't amount to much on just a simple kit..
https://wildmanrocketry.com/collections/wildman-club/products/wm03-wildman-club
Thanks I figured that out when I poked around the website a little more
I am going to be also getting a Estes doorknob with the 38mm upgrade that gives better fins but then going to also have to use a 38mm to 29mm motor adaptor.
38mm motors aren't cheap either.What kit can you possibly do that is decent contruction 3inch tube and use the possibly low power motors to be able to launch more with out costing a bloody fortune in rocket motors. 29mm motors for the doorknob are not too cheap and sure for the loc-iv just as expensive.
I see that now after looking up motor prices. What are some good low power kits. Hopefully something that either comes with something better then a plastic parachute or easy to replace. Yet fly on the cheapest motors, So can fly the high power and midpower very few times and fly the low power a lot more and keeping the cost down38mm motors aren't cheap either.
if you are getting into HPR / L1.. expect to start paying $$ for motors, especially the 'Disposable' [DMS] kinds. Invest in set of cases, and the adapter system for the case. That soon pays for itself if you consistently fly F, G, and a few H motors.. Aerotech 29/180 or 29/240 case & the RAS system.. (And a 29/40-120 case! )
In one of these LOC IV discussion threads I referenced the Balsa Machining Service 3” School Rockets - the 29mm version with plywood fins works fine on adapted Estes BP 24mm E motors - they’re relatively inexpensive, rugged and easy to build.What kit can you possibly do that is decent contruction 3inch tube and use the possibly low power motors to be able to launch more with out costing a bloody fortune in rocket motors. 29mm motors for the doorknob are not too cheap and sure for the loc-iv just as expensive.
I see that now after looking up motor prices. What are some good low power kits. Hopefully something that either comes with something better then a plastic parachute or easy to replace. Yet fly on the cheapest motors, So can fly the high power and midpower very few times and fly the low power a lot more and keeping the cost down
Have you tried phoning someone from the club. Email goes into spam and people go on holiday. Sometimes at a club it’s just one club member answering the contact requests.I have messaged two diffrent clubs here in Virginia. One barley responded and the other club I am planing to go to their next launch on Dec 11. That would be Northern Virginia but the other club listed in King george when I asked about joining, Well several days later yet to hear back.
I am planing on going to battlepark on the 12th. Have been waiting to hear back from Elaine from that group, not sure if the listing they have on there page about membership fee's with a paypal link is how to join them. I do not see anything about giving them information for joining just for sending money. Do they use rail buttons for all the rocket launches even Midpower and low power rockets?I've launched rockets in Virginia with both NOVAAR (www.novaar.org), who launch at Great Meadow, and with Tripoli Central Virginia #25 (www.battlepark.org) who launch near Culpeper. Both are good clubs with plenty of folks who will provide good advice and assistance. As someone else pointed out, e-mail often gets sent to spam by mistake or lost in transit, so, I would suggest going out to a launch to talk with folks. NOVAAR's next launch is scheduled for December 11th and the next launch at BattlePark is scheduled for the 11th and 12th. Weather permitting, I'll probably be at BattlePark on the 12th launching my high power two stage rocket.
I am planing on going to battlepark on the 12th. Have been waiting to hear back from Elaine from that group, not sure if the listing they have on there page about membership fee's with a paypal link is how to join them. I do not see anything about giving them information for joining just for sending money. Do they use rail buttons for all the rocket launches even Midpower and low power rockets?
Andrew
I am planing on going to battlepark on the 12th. Have been waiting to hear back from Elaine from that group, not sure if the listing they have on there page about membership fee's with a paypal link is how to join them. I do not see anything about giving them information for joining just for sending money. Do they use rail buttons for all the rocket launches even Midpower and low power rockets?
Andrew
Okay Thank you very muchPaul provided some good information above that mostly applies to BattlePark. There are two links on the BattlePark web site that you should use if you are planning to attend and launch. One is to register that you are going to attend and another is a link to PayPal to pay your dues and thus join the club. The registration link will give them most of the information they need. I think they would let you visit and launch low/mid power without paying dues, but, you should confirm with them. They use rails (1010 and 1515) for high power and they have both launch rods (of various sizes) and rails for low/mid power. I'll send a message over to one of the board members to see if they can provide more information.
I got L1 certified today with a LOC-IV
In general, a pretty large majority of rockets have motor mounts. Minimum diameter (MD) rockets are a subcategory of rockets that have some special considerations, which is why they are not the norm:Might even get one of the mach 1 BT60 rockets but will have to look through and see what is not min dia rocket and what is. Would like to have some that need to have a motor mount build but also wont break the bank with motor costs. Then to figure out what expoxy for them.
Thank you, FYI I have done a number of Estes kits in the past, It has been a few years. Just never got involved with any organized group with model rocketry before. Basically build the rockets and fly them myself or with a few friends and all low power ones. Most of the time managed to get them back but had a few that got lost in the tree's.Andrew, pick up a few Estes kits and build them [A-B-C motor rockets..]. This will {initially} teach you a lot. They will have everything you need to fly, except motors & wadding. Build it / them stock. Buy a few packs of the recommended motors listed on the face-card. Keep it all as per the packaged parts & instructions. Fly them a bunch of times, to see what & how things work. Then move up, then start modifying, then start thinking L1..
The more I read your posts, the more I feel you've never done this before. baby steps. start simple Padawan..
The Estes Patriot is a great starter kit.
I am planing on going to battlepark on the 12th. Have been waiting to hear back from Elaine from that group, not sure if the listing they have on there page about membership fee's with a paypal link is how to join them. I do not see anything about giving them information for joining just for sending money. Do they use rail buttons for all the rocket launches even Midpower and low power rockets?
Andrew
Hi JeffAll high power rockets at BattlePark must use rails, either 1010, 1515, or unistrut. We also supply several 1010 rails for Low power fights.
On the webpage under the UPDATED 2021-22 Launch Season there are links to pre-register, a paypal link to pay the dues, and a link to flight cards you can fill out and print to bring along.
You are correct, Tripoli Central Virginia #25 is not listed on the NAR site. We are Tripoli prefecture only. There are plenty of NAR member that can provide NAR L1, L2, and even L3 certification flights.
I see you bought an Estes Doorknob rocket. You can certainly try a L1 certification with the rocket, but I would highly recommend against it. That is a mid powered rocket, not a high power rocket. It is designed to fly on D, E, & F motors. If you put a BABY H motor in that you will exceed 2000 ft and may reach 3000 ft. Your chance of ever seeing it again is greatly reduced.
For L1 flights on the east coast, I recommend a rocket with 38mm MMT, 3" - 4" diameter, and 4 - 6 lbs. for a L1 cert. That will stay low and slow with a baby H motor, but allow you to fly the full range of H & I motors after your cert and not "out-fly" the field.
Look me up when you come out on the 12th. I'm the guy with the Steampunk top hat.
Jeff Boldig TCVA25 Prefect
Hi Jeff
I have yet to buy the Estes doorknob and when I do I was planing on using the adaptor and running 24mm motors in it, So not so hot on motors. So it will not fly nearly that high I am guessing. Yes I know the doorknob is not high power and do want some that are not high power. Also want a bunch of low power as well. I was told that the low power also mostly uses launch lugs.
Still looking at getting the micro mamba from Mach 1 as it can fly on even B motors.
I paid my member dues and all and registered. So maybe I could build something low power before the launch I could get some flights in. We shall see.
Andrew
Okay cool, I know the Micro mamba comes with Micro rail buttons and launch lugs. Not sure what the micro rail buttons what they would fit into.Sounds like fun. Hope you can get something in the air. We have 1/8", 3/16", and a 1/4" rod for use with launch lugs on the low power side. There are also two 1010 rails available on the Low power. I'm not sure rails are required, but most TARC teams fly from the rails now. I think we average about half of the flights at any launch are off the low power pads.
Okay cool, I know the Micro mamba comes with Micro rail buttons and launch lugs. Not sure what the micro rail buttons what they would fit into.
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