babp1011
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Some background on myself. I've been into high power for about 6 years now. Got my L1 with NAR and then was quickly addicted and got my L2 about a year later. Not too long into flying with my L2, I got the need for speed and made the jump into MD rockets. My first project was the Kestrel from John Wilke at 3DogsRocketry. It was a great first kit for MD and John and I had many an email back and forth so I could perfect my design. The Kestrel had many successful flights before I wanted to challenge myself. I did tons of research on TRF and decided to try my hand at a 2 stage 54mm-38mm MD flight. I used the Kestrel as a booster staging to a Blackhawk 38. I test flew the Blackhawk to make sure everything would work, then moved on to the full stack. The up went perfectly. I recovered the sustainer just fine, from 18k, but a failed apogee charge caused the booster to come in ballistic. Everything but the interstage coupler was completely recoverable, so it lived to fly another day. Now that I have been flying for a while and have been seeing some amazing MD rockets put up by many of TRF'rs, I got the itch to go for a larger MD project, specifically a 98mm minimum diameter rocket.
A few months ago I was thinking through all of the space saving measures I have seen here and decided to build a rocket to test out some of my ideas. While I am not an L3 yet, the lessons learned with this rocket will directly influence the design of my L3 cert rocket. NOTE/DISCLAIMER: This will be a slow build as I currently live in Chicago but am building the rocket back in southern California at my parents house. Simple reason is all my rocket materials are there and Lucerne Valley is a quick drive away and offers a nice high altitude waiver for testing.
The overall rocket design will be fairly straight forward. 60" FG airframe with large fins capable of flying everything from a soda can K to a 5G or 6G load. Positive motor retention will be completed with a bulkhead epoxied into the airframe to allow a threaded rod to pass through with an eye nut securing everything in place. There will be one airframe break with drogueless dual deploy recovery. The area that will be the most work is the nose cone.
To save space I had a few goals. 1) The nose cone has lots of space, let's use it! 2) Attempt to keep it as simple as possible 3) Make the whole set-up easily removable. I'm using a Performance Rocketry 4" filament wound nosecone to start. My parachute of choice will be a 48" Fruity Chutes Iris with kevlar shock cords to reduce the parachute size while still retaining a great decent rate on many 98mm motors.
My plan is to house the parachute in a 75mm airframe body, secure the electronics on top (looking like those will be a Raven 3, AIM GPS, and a ComSpec RF Transmitter) and retain the whole assembly using 6, 6-32 steal threaded rods epoxied in the airframe shoulder with JB Weld. I have already started that process and attached some pictures below. I will add guides to the outside of the 75mm tube so the whole assembly can't wiggle around in the NC shoulder. Now, the reason for putting the parachute in the tube is so I can a) perform a drogue-less dual deploy with one airframe break and b) use reliable piston ejection to get the laundry out and in the air. Now you may be asking yourself, "With the parachute in the NC, how will it attach to the main recovery harness. Or for that matter, what will the recovery harness even look like??" Excellent question!
The main recovery harness will consist of 1/2 inch kevlar cord will run from a quick link attached to the eye nut mentioned above to the nosecone. The end will attach to the nose cone by being epoxied the full length of the NC shoulder. I decided this for two reasons. First there isn't enough space between the wall of the shoulder and the outside of the 75mm tube to have a fixed attachment point. And second, the nosecone won't bear the main force of recovery, it will only need to support its own weight. Now, for how the parachute will attach. Because the bottom loop of the parachute's shroud lines is relatively narrow, I can pass them through the drilled opening in the bottom bulkhead of the 75mm tube. There, it will be attached via a quick link to a short (3-4 foot) section of 1/2 inch kevlar that will then be attached to the main recovery harness between the motor and the nosecone. I will leave enough play so that no matter what happens (theoretically), the parachute can't get pulled out prematurely. And now for the bulkhead that is now attached to the parachute after ejection. Luckily there is a thick knot several inches above the bottom loop that will be thicker than the opening in the bulkhead. This will stop the bulkhead from traveling up into the shroud lines, staving off the possible disaster of an unopened parachute. If this is all hard to follow, I will try to summarize the recovery scheme and in a short and sweet manner.
Kevlar joins motor to nosecone. Parachute sits in tube in the NC and is connected to main recovery harness with short section of kevlar. The parachute tube is as follows (from bottom to top): Bulkhead held in place with sheer pins, space for parachute, piston for ejection, back bulkhead held securely in place with screws, upper nosecone with space for electronics.
Now for ejection. The main and main backup charges will be connected into the parachute tube using some all-thread and nuts. It's a simple solution I first learned from Adrian that allows for successful pyro events with no worries of blowback. The apogee and backup apogee charges will be run down separate sides of the parachute tube into the main compartment.
Right now I am focusing on the building of all the nosecone parts as those will be the most time consuming. As I get through those I will focus on the remainder of the rocket. As I said, the build will be long, but I plan to document everything here as I go. Any tips/suggestions/comments are always greatly appreciated.
Phil
A few months ago I was thinking through all of the space saving measures I have seen here and decided to build a rocket to test out some of my ideas. While I am not an L3 yet, the lessons learned with this rocket will directly influence the design of my L3 cert rocket. NOTE/DISCLAIMER: This will be a slow build as I currently live in Chicago but am building the rocket back in southern California at my parents house. Simple reason is all my rocket materials are there and Lucerne Valley is a quick drive away and offers a nice high altitude waiver for testing.
The overall rocket design will be fairly straight forward. 60" FG airframe with large fins capable of flying everything from a soda can K to a 5G or 6G load. Positive motor retention will be completed with a bulkhead epoxied into the airframe to allow a threaded rod to pass through with an eye nut securing everything in place. There will be one airframe break with drogueless dual deploy recovery. The area that will be the most work is the nose cone.
To save space I had a few goals. 1) The nose cone has lots of space, let's use it! 2) Attempt to keep it as simple as possible 3) Make the whole set-up easily removable. I'm using a Performance Rocketry 4" filament wound nosecone to start. My parachute of choice will be a 48" Fruity Chutes Iris with kevlar shock cords to reduce the parachute size while still retaining a great decent rate on many 98mm motors.
My plan is to house the parachute in a 75mm airframe body, secure the electronics on top (looking like those will be a Raven 3, AIM GPS, and a ComSpec RF Transmitter) and retain the whole assembly using 6, 6-32 steal threaded rods epoxied in the airframe shoulder with JB Weld. I have already started that process and attached some pictures below. I will add guides to the outside of the 75mm tube so the whole assembly can't wiggle around in the NC shoulder. Now, the reason for putting the parachute in the tube is so I can a) perform a drogue-less dual deploy with one airframe break and b) use reliable piston ejection to get the laundry out and in the air. Now you may be asking yourself, "With the parachute in the NC, how will it attach to the main recovery harness. Or for that matter, what will the recovery harness even look like??" Excellent question!
The main recovery harness will consist of 1/2 inch kevlar cord will run from a quick link attached to the eye nut mentioned above to the nosecone. The end will attach to the nose cone by being epoxied the full length of the NC shoulder. I decided this for two reasons. First there isn't enough space between the wall of the shoulder and the outside of the 75mm tube to have a fixed attachment point. And second, the nosecone won't bear the main force of recovery, it will only need to support its own weight. Now, for how the parachute will attach. Because the bottom loop of the parachute's shroud lines is relatively narrow, I can pass them through the drilled opening in the bottom bulkhead of the 75mm tube. There, it will be attached via a quick link to a short (3-4 foot) section of 1/2 inch kevlar that will then be attached to the main recovery harness between the motor and the nosecone. I will leave enough play so that no matter what happens (theoretically), the parachute can't get pulled out prematurely. And now for the bulkhead that is now attached to the parachute after ejection. Luckily there is a thick knot several inches above the bottom loop that will be thicker than the opening in the bulkhead. This will stop the bulkhead from traveling up into the shroud lines, staving off the possible disaster of an unopened parachute. If this is all hard to follow, I will try to summarize the recovery scheme and in a short and sweet manner.
Kevlar joins motor to nosecone. Parachute sits in tube in the NC and is connected to main recovery harness with short section of kevlar. The parachute tube is as follows (from bottom to top): Bulkhead held in place with sheer pins, space for parachute, piston for ejection, back bulkhead held securely in place with screws, upper nosecone with space for electronics.
Now for ejection. The main and main backup charges will be connected into the parachute tube using some all-thread and nuts. It's a simple solution I first learned from Adrian that allows for successful pyro events with no worries of blowback. The apogee and backup apogee charges will be run down separate sides of the parachute tube into the main compartment.
Right now I am focusing on the building of all the nosecone parts as those will be the most time consuming. As I get through those I will focus on the remainder of the rocket. As I said, the build will be long, but I plan to document everything here as I go. Any tips/suggestions/comments are always greatly appreciated.
Phil
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