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Lord Rory Gin

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I'm leaving... tomorrow.

Off to the farm for Thanksgiving weekend and to do some flying. So I prepped a 100 litre tote box with 3 layers (approx. 2 dozen rockets, some of them virgin flyers) to load into the vehicle. Shown is the top layer; a fleece blanket separates the layers. These along with several more longer LPR and MPR rockets will be packed in the car with blankets. I'm waiting for a shipment of motors to arrive tomorrow before setting out on the road. The ones I don't fly this weekend will fly the next weekend along with some HPR stuff. Can you identify the rockets below?

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Regardless of which specific rockets you've posted, it looks like you've nailed good quality finishes with no bleed through. Well done. They look nice!

Sandy.
 

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Thanksgiving is more than a month away. That is an interesting first stage for the Wac Corporal. Probably a home-grown design.
Thanksgiving in Canada is the second Monday (10th) in October to coincide with the conclusion of harvest and the Judaeo-Christian habit of giving thanks to the Creator. American Thanksgiving is way to close to Christmas, IMHO but it can't be changed to be earlier in Nov. because of interference with Remembrance/Veterans Day.

The WAC Corporal with the Tiny Tim booster by ASP is going to be an interesting flyer. I sim'd it to run best with A8-5 and C6-0 to reach nearly 1100' but it can use a 1/2A6-2 and B6-0 combination for under 400'. It employs a ported separation where the engines are not in direct contact with each other but the separation is delayed long enough for the ejection charge to ignite the sustainer.
I noticed something very strange about the original design - ASP added unnecessary nose weight which I removed because it sim'd as being way over stable, too heavy, and it weather-cocked in every simulation.

Regardless of which specific rockets you've posted, it looks like you've nailed good quality finishes with no bleed through. Well done. They look nice!

Sandy.
I struggle with finishing although I've been getting better at it this summer. The blue and white LOC 1, for example, was painted a base blue that crazed so I sanded it off and sprayed with metallic blue. She's pretty now. The LJ2 did really well with Tamyia grey primer then metallic aluminum - it brought out the depth I wanted. I picked up a set of Sharpie paint markers - they work really well to touch up over-sprays and bleeds. The black panels on the LJ2 were supposed to be all transfer tape decals but they completely failed so I hand painted them with the markers. And my best friend is 6mm Tamyia edging tape.

Compared to the stuff I painted last year, I am miles ahead in technique but still shy of my desired standards. But then again, after flying a couple times the paint job will be scuffed up so is the effort really worth it? 🙄
 

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Thanksgiving in Canada is the second Monday (10th) in October to coincide with the conclusion of harvest and the Judaeo-Christian habit of giving thanks to the Creator. American Thanksgiving is way to close to Christmas, IMHO but it can't be changed to be earlier in Nov. because of interference with Remembrance/Veterans Day.

The WAC Corporal with the Tiny Tim booster by ASP is going to be an interesting flyer. I sim'd it to run best with A8-5 and C6-0 to reach nearly 1100' but it can use a 1/2A6-2 and B6-0 combination for under 400'. It employs a ported separation where the engines are not in direct contact with each other but the separation is delayed long enough for the ejection charge to ignite the sustainer.
I noticed something very strange about the original design - ASP added unnecessary nose weight which I removed because it sim'd as being way over stable, too heavy, and it weather-cocked in every simulation.


I struggle with finishing although I've been getting better at it this summer. The blue and white LOC 1, for example, was painted a base blue that crazed so I sanded it off and sprayed with metallic blue. She's pretty now. The LJ2 did really well with Tamyia grey primer then metallic aluminum - it brought out the depth I wanted. I picked up a set of Sharpie paint markers - they work really well to touch up over-sprays and bleeds. The black panels on the LJ2 were supposed to be all transfer tape decals but they completely failed so I hand painted them with the markers. And my best friend is 6mm Tamyia edging tape.

Compared to the stuff I painted last year, I am miles ahead in technique but still shy of my desired standards. But then again, after flying a couple times the paint job will be scuffed up so is the effort really worth it? 🙄

OK, from my browser's ability to zoom in and out on your pictures, you may be shy of the skills you desire, but I would be very proud of what you've done if I did it. I'm now assuming you hold yourself to a higher standard, which I very much respect! Great work!

Sandy.
 

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Very nice selection of rockets.
The Wac Corporal with the Tiny Tim booster can be flown without the ported "filler" tube. I've flown mine dozens of times as an open air gap stage without failure, just make sure the booster has a fairly loose fit to the sustainer.
I like the B6-0 to A8-3/5 motor combination, it stays low enough to see the staging event, but goes high enough to be satisfying.

Have a great time flying. Clear skies and straight smoke.
 

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Well, one suitable flying day out of three. But I learned a very valuable lesson. I attached my chute release and the chute to the rocket (a NCR Lance Delta) via the same fishing snap swivel. But the swivel was too light duty for the ejection charge. It was only an CTI F-motor for a 700' flight but the swivel broke. The chute and JLCR both separated from the rocket and the rocket came down fairly hard but zero damage. The chute landed 15' away and the JLCR landed somewhere else. Luckily my brother with his eagle eyes and metal detector came to the rescue to find it (some 20' short of the chute). So, the lesson learned is to use proper hardware in the future for attaching items, attach the JLCR separate from the chute, and to use the orange coloured pouch it came with. Edit: The Lance Delta appears to have cracked at the fin/body joint which will take a little epoxy repair and spot painting to fix. This wasn't apparent in the field.

Very nice selection of rockets.
The Wac Corporal with the Tiny Tim booster can be flown without the ported "filler" tube. I've flown mine dozens of times as an open air gap stage without failure, just make sure the booster has a fairly loose fit to the sustainer.
I like the B6-0 to A8-3/5 motor combination, it stays low enough to see the staging event, but goes high enough to be satisfying.

Have a great time flying. Clear skies and straight smoke.
I will have to model the B6-0 and A8-3/5 combination again - I thought that it was a bit slow off the rod.
 
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Rory, try a bullet swivel or a ball bearing steel swivel, here is one available from Cabela's Canada.

By the way that small scale LJ2 was that the 1/100 scale kit from Estes or something else, the models all look great.

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Well, one suitable flying day out of three. But I learned a very valuable lesson. I attached my chute release and the chute to the rocket (a NCR Delta) via the same fishing snap swivel. But the swivel was too light duty for the ejection charge. It was only an CTI F-motor for a 700' flight but the swivel broke. The chute and JLCR both separated from the rocket and the rocket came down fairly hard but zero damage. The chute landed 15' away and the JLCR landed somewhere else. Luckily my brother with his eagle eyes and metal detector came to the rescue to find it (some 20' short of the chute). So, the lesson learned is to use proper hardware in the future for attaching items, attach the JLCR separate from the chute, and to use the orange coloured pouch it came with.


I will have to model the B6-0 and A8-3/5 combination again - I thought that it was a bit slow off the rod.
Do you know what the size of the fishing snap swivel was?
 

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Do you know what the size of the fishing snap swivel was?
Way too light. I would normally use a #1 or #3 for a BT-80 rocket because of the mass of the nose cone.

Edit: below is a picture of a #6 ball bearing swivel, a #8 snap swivel that I use for small LPR, the broken snap swivel that appears to be a #6, and the last is a #1 snap swivel.
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Rory, try a bullet swivel or a ball bearing steel swivel, here is one available from Cabela's Canada.

By the way that small scale LJ2 was that the 1/100 scale kit from Estes or something else, the models all look great.

Garth Illerbrun
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The LJ2 1:100 is a Boyce kit. The decals were a fail so I painted the black patches by hand. Also attached is the LOC 1 with metallic blue and the WAC Corporal with Tiny Tim booster. If you look closely, all my rockets with a 1" or larger tube have air holes for altimeter equalization.
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Rory, the Boyce Kit looks great, and you did great work on the LOC 1 and Wac Corporal. Re the Ball bearing swivels, check out the Regina Cabela's, look for the Working tensile strength, usually listed in Kg or lbs, most bearing swivels in the #8 size can handle up to 260 lb force, so your NCR kit should handle several tens of G's deceleration before breaking that swivel.

Garth

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