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Bondo only has one warning label on the back " causes eye irritation", not may cause, but causes and man does it ever, it felt like somebody threw a handful of sand in my eyes for three to four days the first time I used it......and most of the body fillers are the same way.I find bondo spot putty sticks a lot better, and structurally somewhat stronger, but should be used under good ventilation... or a respirator (don't think I use my respirator EVERY time..
That may be ... I've never had that issue, but I feel it in my chest when I work with it too much indoors w/o my respirator! The smell is reminiscent of toluene... whatever it is, I feel like it can't be good for youBondo only has one warning label on the back " causes eye irritation", not may cause, but causes and man does it ever, it felt like somebody threw a handful of sand in my eyes for three to four days the first time I used it......and most of the body fillers are the same way.
I ended up having to get a full face, clear mask that has respirator cartridges on each side.That may be ... I've never had that issue, but I feel it in my chest when I work with it too much indoors! The smell is reminiscent of toluene... whatever it is, I feel like it can't be good for you![]()
WOW! I might just do that!I ended up having to get a full face, clear mask that has respirator cartridges on each side.
Look up the MSDS on Bondo spot putty, way more than an eye irritant,That may be ... I've never had that issue, but I feel it in my chest when I work with it too much indoors w/o my respirator! The smell is reminiscent of toluene... whatever it is, I feel like it can't be good for you![]()
Don't forget the nitrile gloves...Look up the MSDS on Bondo spot putty, way more than an eye irritant,
contains benzenes and ketones which are known carcinogens.
Bondo only has one warning label on the back " causes eye irritation", not may cause, but causes and man does it ever, it felt like somebody threw a handful of sand in my eyes for three to four days the first time I used it......and most of the body fillers are the same way.
I've not heard of that brand before.I use and Highly recommend GoodFila CWF. Creamy smooth, easy to sand, dries fast. I cover the whole tube. I put on nitrile gloves scoop some up and rub it up and down the BT. Let it dry a couple of hours and sand it off. I start with 120, then 220 then 400. You can thin it easily. You can paint it on small blemishes. I use it on balsa and plywood. I used to use Elmer's CWF. Not anymore. No Bondo either. Too toxic.
The SDS I found for3M's Bondo spot putty shows styrene monomer and polyester resin as the major organic products. Benzene isn't listed, nor are any ketones I'm familiar with. Toluene, less than 0.15%. Products that contain significant amounts of benzene are generally hard to find---and expensive, what with shipping and regulations that follow a carcinogen.Look up the MSDS on Bondo spot putty, way more than an eye irritant,
contains benzenes and ketones which are known carcinogens.
The 3m SDS clearly states that the product is a category 2 carcinogen, and specifically lists Ethylbenzene and Methyl Isobutyl ketone as carcinogensThe SDS I found for3M's Bondo spot putty shows styrene monomer and polyester resin as the major organic products. Benzene isn't listed, nor are any ketones I'm familiar with. Toluene, less than 0.15%. Products that contain significant amounts of benzene are generally hard to find---and expensive, what with shipping and regulations that follow a carcinogen.
The SDS appears to have several Bondo products listed and they're a bit mixed up, but the information above is for the spot putty specifically.
[FWIW there is no such thing as "benzenes". Benzene is a specific compound, C6H6. Lots of compounds contain its structure---including three of the amino acids that are in your body's proteins---but that doesn't make them benzene, nor does it make them carcinogens.]
EDIT: My bad, 3M's SDS online is definitely and badly mixed up. The tube of spot putty I have lists some the ingredients and they're quite different from the SDS list. Spot putty does contain acetone and methyl isobutyl ketone, as well as ethylbenzene and xylene. The latter two have a benzene ring in the molecule but as I mentioned above, that doesn't make them benzene. Neither is classified as a carcinogen, except possibly in California...
these are the ones on their website:I use and Highly recommend GoodFila CWF. Creamy smooth, easy to sand, dries fast. I cover the whole tube. I put on nitrile gloves scoop some up and rub it up and down the BT. Let it dry a couple of hours and sand it off. I start with 120, then 220 then 400. You can thin it easily. You can paint it on small blemishes. I use it on balsa and plywood. I used to use Elmer's CWF. Not anymore. No Bondo either. Too toxic.
It's the wood and grain filler.these are the ones on their website:
I filled out the information form so that they will send me a free sample.It's the wood and grain filler.
From epa.gov: "EPA has classified methyl isobutyl ketone as a Group D, not classifiable as to human carcinogenicity." NIH says that ethylbenzene is a potential carcinogen, demonstrated to a limited extent in lab animals but not yet in humans. Considering how ubiquitous "potential carcinogens" seem to be...The 3m SDS clearly states that the product is a category 2 carcinogen, and specifically lists Ethylbenzene and Methyl Isobutyl ketone as carcinogens
From epa.gov: "EPA has classified methyl isobutyl ketone as a Group D, not classifiable as to human carcinogenicity." NIH says that ethylbenzene is a potential carcinogen, demonstrated to a limited extent in lab animals but not yet in humans. Considering how ubiquitous "potential carcinogens" seem to be...
Did they get it to you yet?I filled out the information form so that they will send me a free sample.
Did they get it to you yet?
Nor I. Never got a confirmation either. I wonder if the form for samples is broken.nope![]()
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I suppose, BTW, that this is why they invented telephones.Nor I. Never got a confirmation either. I wonder if the form for samples is broken.
Just go fiberglass; just kidding. It should work but Bondo spot filler like other folks have said is much faster; just use it outside because it has very strong fumes. I do a little at a time because it dries fast.I used the filler below for filling spirals on LPR kits, but would it stand up to HPR?
If not, any suggestions for filling spirals on a 4" Super DX3?
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The only warning on the back of the Bondo Spot Putty says: "Causes Eye Irritation" It does too. My eyes feel like someone threw sand in them unless I wear a full face respirator.Just go fiberglass; just kidding. It should work but Bondo spot filler like other folks have said is much faster; just use it outside because it has very strong fumes. I do a little at a time because it dries fast.
I use a respirator, gloves, and other PPE for all of my high power building. We use very strong chemicals unless you only use Titebond on your builds. I have went too far down the fiberglass rabbit hole to not use proper PPE. Plus I'm also usually doing builds with my kids so they PPE up too.The only warning on the back of the Bondo Spot Putty says: "Causes Eye Irritation" It does too. My eyes feel like someone threw sand in them unless I wear a full face respirator.
Make sure WHICH Bondo Glazing and Spot Putty you have, there are two versions both red, one is a single part and is basically a very high solids lacquer filler (lots of solvents), the other is a two part filler that iirc is polyester based and uses a salicylic acid based hardner (it has similar reactions if the user is susceptible to epoxies, which it basically is). The two part is Bondo Professional Glazing and Spot Putty the single part is Bondo Glazing and Spot Putty.Wow, first time? I figured you'd used it before.
I like the smell of most of those things. Particularly polyester resin- Bondo body filler or fiberglass resin. There's something about spreading a little Bondo and cutting it down with a cheese grater that's just satisfying.
I'll second the glazing/spot putty for filling an imperfections on a tube. It dries fast and sands well. That said, if I had CWF like @ewomack does and no glazing putty, I'd use what I had on hand.
I may, or may not, have "a problem". Bondo Glazing & Spot Putty in the foreground. Not pictured is anything I consider as an adhesive including way too many different epoxies including one of the two part moldable epoxies which I used for fillets on my first HPR rig...never again. I also tried it on tube spirals on a different rocket and...never again.Make sure WHICH Bondo Glazing and Spot Putty you have, there are two versions both red, one is a single part and is basically a very high solids lacquer filler (lots of solvents), the other is a two part filler that iirc is polyester based and uses a salicylic acid based hardner (it has similar reactions if the user is susceptible to epoxies, which it basically is). The two part is Bondo Professional Glazing and Spot Putty the single part is Bondo Glazing and Spot Putty.
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