# How do you say ....

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#### ActingLikeAKid

##### Well-Known Member
I thought this would be interesting, since a lot of us interact only via text communication... There are some words that I've heard pronounced in a couple of different ways; I'm interested to know what YOU do.

Fillet: Fill-it or Fill-ay?
Estes: Est-ease or Est-iss?
Binder Designs: Named after a thing that holds paper (bine-der, rhymes with wine-purr) or someone called Binder with a short I (rhymes with "tinder")?
LOC Precision: L-O-C, "lock", or "loke"?

There are probably some others.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go swaddle myself in Nomex before this thread becomes contentious....
(seriously I hope it doesn't - I'm just curious about how people say these things)

#### rstaff3

##### Oddroc-eteer
Fill-eht; fill-ay is for fish and gumbo
Est-ease; I think I'm technically wrong but it was 30 years before anyone offered the alternative.
Binder like the clips
Lock because that's the only way I've ever heard it. Or just say the letters.

Nike as in Smoke: Naik, Nye-key (or nee-kay if you are an ancient Greek)

#### DavidMcCann

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I'm still working on Worcestershire

#### ActingLikeAKid

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Fill-eht; fill-ay is for fish and gumbo
Est-ease; I think I'm technically wrong but it was 30 years before anyone offered the alternative.
Binder like the clips
Lock because that's the only way I've ever heard it. Or just say the letters.

Nike as in Smoke: Naik, Nye-key (or nee-kay if you are an ancient Greek)
Ooh, Nike is an interesting one. I always say "Nye-kee" but I've known a few people who say it so that it rhymes with "bike".

I always say "fill-ay", but I think I'm in a minority.

As for est-ease, I *think* that's what they say if you call them, so if *they* say it that way....

#### H_Rocket

##### Death by Powerpoint
Fillet: &%$#*^&%$##
Estes: Est-ESS
Binder Designs: Like a paper clip
LOC Precision: Lock

#### ActingLikeAKid

##### Well-Known Member
I'm still working on Worcestershire
Not on your fillets, I hope!
Or your filet, either. Just salt and pepper and a good sear on a cast-iron skillet, maybe some butter melted over it.....

#### dhbarr

##### Amateur Professional
Fill it
Est iz
Bin der (tinder)
Lock

I'm probably wrong; that's what I get for reading a bunch before knowing many in the hobby &#128514;

#### DavidMcCann

##### Well-Known Member
Not on your fillets, I hope!
Or your filet, either. Just salt and pepper and a good sear on a cast-iron skillet, maybe some butter melted over it.....
I like the way you think! Naw I use it on burgers.

And I say fill-it for rocketry. not sure why.

#### Steve Shannon

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I agree with Dick except for Estes. I used to say Estees also.
Fill-ay is the pronunciation for the word spelled "filet", not fillet.
According to the Estes company and those who know Vern, it's Estes, with the accent on the first syllable and an upside down 'e' (as in the word the) as the pronunciation symbol in the second syllable.

#### Gary Byrum

##### Overstable By Design
Said Ess' tease" for decades until I was formally corrected. It's "Ess' Tiss"
Fillet is "Fill' It" Accents on the first syllable.

Here's a new one for me. NSL 2016. The LCO used the term "uh pah' jee" for apogee. Accent on the 2nd syllable. I think most people say. "Ap'-uh-jee" Accent on the 1st syllable.

I always said Binder was "Bine' der"
LOC was Lock

Motors VS engines....doesn't really matter to me. I know what you mean. And please, don't anyone restart that debate. It's pointless.

#### ActingLikeAKid

##### Well-Known Member
Said Ess' tease" for decades until I was formally corrected. It's "Ess' Tiss"
I said "estease" but the more rocket stuff I did, the more "es-tiss" I heard, so I've changed.

Fillet is "Fill' It" Accents on the first syllable.
That seems to be the standard with rocketeers, but it feels discordant coming out of my mouth. I know that's how the Brits pronounce it ...

Here's a new one for me. NSL 2016. The LCO used the term "uh pah' jee" for apogee. Accent on the 2nd syllable. I think most people say. "Ap'-uh-jee" Accent on the 1st syllable.
Almost like "Apache"? Yeah, that's a new one.

Motors VS engines....doesn't really matter to me. I know what you mean. And please, don't anyone restart that debate. It's pointless.
I use the two pretty interchangeably in rocketry.

#### Bat-mite

##### Rocketeer in MD
Vern Estes says EST-iss. It's his name, so he can't be wrong.

Fillet, according to the dictionary, is only pronounced fill-AY when it is used for a cut of meat. Otherwise it is always FILL-it.

Someone should ask the owners of LOC and Binder how they are pronounced. Personally, I will say lock and BINN-der until I am corrected by someone whop actually knows.

Not sure why people say Nike like "bike." How do they pronounce the brand name of the shoes?

#### Zeus-cat

##### Well-Known Member
Fill-eht; fill-ay is for fish and gumbo
Est-ease; I think I'm technically wrong but it was 30 years before anyone offered the alternative.
Binder like the clips
Lock because that's the only way I've ever heard it. Or just say the letters.

Nike as in Smoke: Naik, Nye-key (or nee-kay if you are an ancient Greek)
He got it right.

#### dr wogz

##### Fly caster
Bine - der
like that thing in school, in which you put your loose-leaf papers. Like what you do to join something with string, or how you assemble a book: Bind (b-eye-nd)

fill-et, but you fill-ay a fish..

Nike like bike, how we said when them shoes were popular.. Nike, bike, kite, bile, mile, smile, ...

What about lieutenant? Loo-teh-nant? or lef-teh-nant?

Encyclopedia: En-cy-cloe-pee-dia or en-cy-cluh-pee-dia or pee-dee-eh

#### BDB

##### Absent Minded Professor
Nike, the shoe company, is named after the Greek goddess of victory, so the name is pronounced Nye-key. The same is true for the rocket.

#### Bat-mite

##### Rocketeer in MD
Nike, the shoe company, is named after the Greek goddess of victory, so the name is pronounced Nye-key. The same is true for the rocket.
Bingo.

#### neil_w

##### Working on 20K
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Re: "fillet"

That seems to be the standard with rocketeers, but it feels discordant coming out of my mouth. I know that's how the Brits pronounce it ....
Wait, the Brits pronounce it how?

In any case, it's not a standard with rocketeers so much as it is how the word is pronounced. Although we use the term in rockets, we certainly don't own it; it's used in other disciplines as well (particularly CAD). You can say "fill-AY" but don't be surprised if people look at you funny, or ask you what's for lunch.

Changing the way you pronounce a word is always an interesting challenge, but it's worth effort. After a while it will seem natural. I have done so countless times in my life as I discover things that I've gotten wrong.

Next on my list is to change EST-eez (what is how I've said it since I was a kid, and never knew it was wrong) to EST-iss, which as noted above would certainly seem to be the officially correct pronunciation, although I expect most people (other than perhaps Vern and Gleda) consider them interchangeable. Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if Vern and Gleda have heard enough people say Est-eez over the years that even they don't care anymore. But it is *always* an appropriate courtesy to give best effort to pronouncing (and spelling!) people's names correctly.

Pronouncing apogee as "uh PAH jee" is just downright weird. That does not conform to any official pronunciation I've ever seen. For someone acting as LCO to do it that way is weird^2.

#### Bat-mite

##### Rocketeer in MD
I guess that just proves that you don't have to own a dictionary to qualify as an LCO. :wink:

#### LW Bercini

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While we're at it, how do you pronounce "xerclod"?

#### LW Bercini

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Here's a new one for me. NSL 2016. The LCO used the term "uh pah' jee" for apogee. Accent on the 2nd syllable. I think most people say. "Ap'-uh-jee" Accent on the 1st syllable.
If that is the same LCO that I recall, he had plethora of wacky pronunciations.

#### neil_w

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While we're at it, how do you pronounce "xerclod"?
I thought that was a joke until I looked it up. :eyepop:

#### Steve Shannon

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If that is the same LCO that I recall, he had plethora of wacky pronunciations.
I wasn't there, but Art Upton (who absolutely knows the correct pronunciations) likes to have fun by varying how he says words when he LCOs.

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#### neil_w

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I wasn't there, but Art Upton (who absolutely knows the correct pronunciations) likes to have fun by varying how he says words when he LCOs.
That is a much more satisfying explanation than the alternative.

#### Rex R

##### LV2
was watching a vid last night...a couple of Brits had a (new to me) way of saying epoxy. they were doing a short e at the beginning, I have always heard it pronounced with a long E...
Rex

#### Gary Byrum

##### Overstable By Design
Here's another good one. How do you say, "perchlorate" per·chlo·rate (p&#601;r-klôr'&#257;t') <~~~~from the dictionary. I've always said it that way. Accent on the 2nd syllable. I've heard per' cler it/ate. I suppose some words are just pronounced different in other regions. Prolly based on accents.

#### Steve Shannon

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Here's another good one. How do you say, "perchlorate" per·chlo·rate (p&#601;r-klôr'&#257;t') <~~~~from the dictionary. I've always said it that way. Accent on the 2nd syllable. I've heard per' cler it/ate. I suppose some words are just pronounced different in other regions. Prolly based on accents.
Some people don't read the correct pronunciation in the dictionary. I say it the way you do.

#### LW Bercini

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I suppose some words are just pronounced different in other regions. Prolly based on accents.
Like when you see something really impressive and exclaim "DAY-um!!"

#### ActingLikeAKid

##### Well-Known Member
Re: "fillet"

Wait, the Brits pronounce it how?
fish, meat, or epoxy, they pronounce it "FILL-it"

(WARNING: Contains Gordon Ramsay bad language)

#### rharshberger

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Some people don't read the correct pronunciation in the dictionary. I say it the way you do.
I dont read dictionaries, they only have one plot....

#### ActingLikeAKid

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I dont read dictionaries, they only have one plot....
Almost as much exposition and backstory as Tolkien. Almost.