- Oct 20, 2020
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- Tucson, AZ
Goblin of courseHey All,
I'm finally taking the leap and going for my L1 cert. My model rocket history has been on and off but I'm finally ready to go for it. I've been doing model rockets ever since I was a little kid and my dad and I would build Estes kits. Last year I bought a few new Estes kits and finally started building them. I took my 2 year old out to a launch earlier this month and he loved the big ones so much I'd really like to get into something bigger (plus it's always been my little kid dream to have a "big kid" rocket).
Here is where I'm at. I have the funds to get just about any of the L1 kits but I'm stuck between 3 options:
Super DX3 4.0 Payloader (https://www.apogeerockets.com/Rocke...et-Kits/Super-DX3-4-0in-Payloader?cPath=1_82&)
Any advice? I feel like the one I REALLY want is the DX3 because what I'm really interested in is dual deployment. It seems like the DX3 can very easily be retrofitted to change the payload section to an e-bay. The idea would be to build it with and e-bay instead of a payload bay but fly it as a motor-eject for the actual L1 cert. Then I'm only buying that rocket to get my L1 and then get into dual deployment with something I already own.
The Goblin seems like a good choice, cheaper than the DX3 and pretty straight forward and the Zephyr seems like it's basically L1 on easy mode. Part of what I like about the Goblin or the DX3 is the challenge whereas the Zephyr seems like it's probably a lot like building an Estes kit. The glues don't scare me, I regularly work with epoxy when woodworking so it's not a new concept but a lot of what I've read about L1 is keep it simple.
Any advice would be appreciated!
MAC nose bays rock!
As most people has said, the DX3 is probably the best option. When building a rocket for a certification flight, you want to keep it as simple as possible with minimal failure points. That is why the DX3 is probably your best option. It has the minimum number of fins needed for stability (3). The more fins, the more failure (break) points. Also you don't want a rocket with a fin design where any part of the fin extends below the body tube. If it does, that part of the fin is what will most likely contact the ground first during recovery and will take the biggest hit. Which can result in breakage. The DX3 fin shape is perfect for this as the design allows for the body tube to hit first and not an part of the fin.
That goes for anything Apogee does not manufacture. Look at a Missleworks RRC they are $20 more for them than the manufacturer. I called them on it and got a message from Tim. We charge more because you can call us and we will be there to help you…. Uugh, so will the manufacturer!The DX3 is great, the only thing I would recommend is buying it directly from Madcow. Not sure why anyone would pay Apogee $185 for a resell rocket when Madcow manufactures the rocket and sells it for $135. Add Apogee's shipping rate of $30 (vs Madcow's $16 shipping) and you would be paying an almost 45% markup. That savings can probably buy your Level 1 motor. Maybe even your Level 2 motor.
That goes for anything Apogee does not manufacture. Look at a Missleworks RRC they are $20 more for them than the manufacturer. I called them on it and got a message from Tim. We charge more because you can call us and we will be there to help you…. Uugh, so will the manufacturer!
The thing i like about Apogee is when i order something it gets to me fast. I think a large part is because of geography though as they're in CO and I'm in TX. Another thing is they have a pretty wide product selection so you can order a range of stuff but only pay one shipping fee where if you were to order from a handful of other places you'd have to pay multiple shipping fees. You're certainly right about markup though, you're going to pay a markup that you may not if you went straight to the manufacturer.That goes for anything Apogee does not manufacture. Look at a Missleworks RRC they are $20 more for them than the manufacturer. I called them on it and got a message from Tim. We charge more because you can call us and we will be there to help you…. Uugh, so will the manufacturer!
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