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I am not much of a swearing person. I think its inappropriate for the new star trek to have any foul language. I greatly enjoyed "my grandfathers trek"

If you like original Star Trek, check out this web series. They did 11 episodes and it is very well done.

 

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I think its inappropriate for the new star trek to have any foul language.

+1.

Star Trek is a world where humanity overcame our problems and made it to the stars. It's supposed to be a bright and optimistic view of the future. The grittiness and grimness of the newer series simply does not fit.
 

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It will be my 97th birthday. Hopefully some good Star Trek will have been made by then. Not holding out much hope for Strange New Worlds under the talentless hack Kurtzman and his Bad Robot gang.
The Bad Robot gang destroyed the two most profitable Sci-Fi franchises in history, Star Trek and Star Wars. Don't let them anywhere near Battlestar Galactica!
 

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Happy First Contact day. Happy Star Trek. I am referring to the real star trek. The original 5 television series and the 10 films. Any star trek after 2009 is not real trek.

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Are you out of your mind? The last 3 movies are hands down the best Trek ever produced, and the cast....spot on!!!!!!
 

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Are you out of your mind? The last 3 movies are hands down the best Trek ever produced, and the cast....spot on!!!!!!

nope youe wrong. The new films by jj abrams were made for just special effects. Give me models on wires and theatrical play trained actors. All this modern stuff is just to sell tickets. The new trek has lost what made trek great. Who cares about the money make a good story with good acting.
 

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All I know is I grew up on Dr. Who (and the Daleks) and found Lost In Space while in a hotel in Washington D.C. while my dad debriefed at the Pentagon for a week. Fast forward to waiting in line for hours for the first Star Wars film. It. was. awesome! I scrawled "R2D2 rapes calculators" on my buddies pickup topper and laid him out. Good times! I kinda got lost in all the iterations, spin offs, ripoffs and what not, but it's all just entertainment and a distraction from the real world we all need sometimes. Now, maybe more than ever. I loved Star Trek and the unrealistic premise any society could actually attain that level of civilization. Like magic, you have to suspend reality to buy into that vision of the future. It's comforting and hopeful. You do you and find the mind candy that tickles your imagination. I just try to keep an open mind, since I can't see, hear, feel, touch everything out there. Suggestions are welcome, opinions are optional.
 
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Are you out of your mind? The last 3 movies are hands down the best Trek ever produced, and the cast....spot on!!!!!!

They were entertaining enough movies in their way, but if you want to see battles in space against bad guys with doomsday devices, Star Wars has already done that, and done a far better job with it. There was nothing in those Abrams Trek movies that stuck with you like Picard's speech at the climax of The Measure of a Man or even the laugh-out-loud fun of The Trouble with Tribbles. It was like how Martin Scorsese described the Marvel movies - more carnival rides than art.

No, the Abrams Trek does not hold a candle to the the original series and TNG in any way. (I haven't gotten to watching DS9 or Voyager yet.)
 

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I was told recently that the trek mantra of "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" was socialist dogma.

The actual Marxist quote is usually "From each according to his ability, to each according to their needs." Not exact, but pretty close.

It can be taken as a decent general rule when considering a moral dilemma, but regarding it as an absolute is dangerous and can lead to violations of the few's rights in the name of serving the many.
 

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It's always been Trek Over Wars for me. I will give the Star Wars movies the credit they deserve, just don't really do it for me.
 

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nope youe wrong. The new films by jj abrams were made for just special effects. Give me models on wires and theatrical play trained actors. All this modern stuff is just to sell tickets. The new trek has lost what made trek great. Who cares about the money make a good story with good acting.
The script for "Into Darkness" was written by reassigning lines from the original cast movies to other characters:

Star Trek: The Motion Picture: Kirk to Scotty, "They gave her back to me."
Star Trek Into Darkness: Pike to Kirk, "They gave her back to me."

Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan: Kirk screams, "Khaaaaannn!"
Star Trek Into Darkness: Spock screams, "Khaaaaannn!"

There were others. These were just the two I remembered off the top of my head. Should have named it the Dialogue Recycler.
 

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All I know is I grew up on Dr. Who (and the Daleks) and found Lost In Space while in a hotel in Washington D.C. while my dad debriefed at the Pentagon for a week. Fast forward to waiting in line for hours for the first Star Wars film. It. was. awesome! I scrawled "R2D2 rapes calculators" on my buddies pickup topper and laid him out. Good times! I kinda got lost in all the iterations, spin offs, ripoffs and what not, but it's all just entertainment and a distraction from the real world we all need sometimes. Now, maybe more than ever. I loved Star Trek and the unrealistic premise any society could actually attain that level of civilization. Like magic, you have to suspend reality to buy into that vision of the future. It's comforting and hopeful. You do you and find the mind candy that tickles your imagination. I just try to keep an open mind, since I can't see, hear, feel, touch everything out there. Suggestions are welcome, opinions are optional.
A Huge Dr.Who fan here, first started watching on our local PBS channel in the early 80's, been infatuated with it ever since and my collection is almost complete. I liked it because it was based on a whole different premise, not based on a military command structure such as Star Trek. It also had much more humor in the stories, especially with Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker. Not slagging Star Trek, cause I'm a fan too.But I'll always side with the Doctor. I've seen them all, except of course the missing episodes and three of Sylvester McCoy's stories.
 

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The script for "Into Darkness" was written by reassigning lines from the original cast movies to other characters:

Star Trek: The Motion Picture: Kirk to Scotty, "They gave her back to me."
Star Trek Into Darkness: Pike to Kirk, "They gave her back to me."

Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan: Kirk screams, "Khaaaaannn!"
Star Trek Into Darkness: Spock screams, "Khaaaaannn!"


You just made my point, thanks. That is exactly what made that movie so awesome.
 

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J.J. Abrams peaked with Fringe.

As a person who has been reading and watching Science Fiction for better than half a century, I look at Star Trek, Star Wars, Stargate, Battlestar Galactica et al, as just one aspect of the genre.
There is a lot of good, bad and some outstanding, examples in both literary and film/TV series science fiction.
The biggest problem is determining, which is which, as one man's outstanding is another man's 🤬.
 
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Are you out of your mind? The last 3 movies are hands down the best Trek ever produced, and the cast....spot on!!!!!!
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion of course, but the JJ Abrams stuff lost me when they started breaking canon. Enterprise being built on the ground? Uhhh... No. And it went downhill from there. Communicators that communicated across star systems? Not in Kirk's day. Enterprise doing duty as a submarine? Just... No.

I'm fine with mild revisionism to account for differences in special effects (Klingons looked different after TOS due to more budget etc), and for changes to accommodate greater presence of computers in everything.

By my own logic, Discovery constantly pissed me off, at least until they went into the future and weren't breaking canon every single episode.
 

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I like just about all of ST. I did get annoyed with the last ST movie, with the extremely-over-done swarm of "thousands" of missles, drones, or whatever, for the sake of throwing in thousands of crap in CGI, with blaring music of a song I don't care for, certainly not in Trek. They lost their way (Only saw it once). Oh yeah, let's throw in some motorcycles, for the sake of throwing in motorcycles, how very trek-like. Also wasn't happy with how the first Trek movie by Abrams destroyed Vulcan, never mind other non-canon stuff, but most of the plot was good.

I have liked all the new Trek series. And look very forward to Strange New Worlds, with Captain Pike (Anson Mount), who was one hell of a fantastic character in Season-2 of Discovery. A certain scene with him, involving a "Deal" for a crystal, put him in the top 3 ST captains, ever. Not even Kirk or Picard knowingly made such a deal. OK, just realized, gotta give all due credit to Captain Sisko in that regard.

Also going to see the newest episode of Picard in a few hours.

[UPDATE: Saw the latest episode. Without giving any real spoiler, and given what I said above about a song I did not care for in the last ST movie, I was blown away by a song in this episode, one of my favorite singer's songs, that I like a lot. And unlike the movie, IT FIT, and added to the episode. Just rewatched that scene. That totally new rendition of that song, with a different singer, was STUNNING.]

For some reason, I have been thinking of this old scene recently...... :) WW7D?

 
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The first time the Borg showed up was riveting. But I grew up with the original series. Even my kids will drop an "I'm giving it all she's got Captain" every now and then :D
 
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