For your consideration, Pat G for TRA BoD

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My name is Pat Gordzelik, and I am running for a second term on the Tripoli Board of Directors. I appreciate the invite from one of this forums members, (Al Gloer), and the opportunity to participate in a heretofore unknown to me resource. As I explore the topics listed on this forum and read the replies, I can see that many of its members are not only fervent about this wonderful hobby of ours, but that they also realize that their passion’s future is dependant upon decisions made in their behalf. And I hope to assure you that not only do I have the desire to represent your best interests, but also the ability, and the track record, to make those decisions that could effect us all.

You will notice in my below resume that not only am I a member of TRA, but also NAR. I also count among my friends, members of IEAS, CERTA, ARSA, CAR, UKRA, and RRS. Heresy, some may say, but my involvement transcends rocketry organizations. Example. Google my name, Pat Gordzelik, and make your own decisions of that involvement. For yet another example, my role with www.flyrockets.com (look at the credits section) was to bring together a consortium of interests involving all individuals, regardless of affiliation, whose goal was to, literally, fly rockets. Any size, any type, every dream.

Today, that dream is one that has a healthy future. As I peruse this forum’s membership, I see many next generation folk’s eager anticipation of that future and their place in it. I work with like minded youth constantly in Texas Universities and @ the K12 level, and quite frankly, their enthusiasm fuels my own fire, that being, to insure that was available to me, will be available for them in the future.

But that future demands a goal, a direction, and yes, a responsibility, to become a reality. Your next Tripoli board must decide fiduciary responsibility of the usage of your funds. They must navigate the myriad of federal, state, and local laws that affect your hobby. They must have the backbone and the vision to not cave in to “It feels good now, blind to any future ramifications” from well meaning but shortsighted requests. And last, but not least, they must (in my opinion), have that fire in their belly that reminds them of their desire to serve, and why the passion exists. Fly rockets.

And speaking of flying rockets, a shameless plug. I hope to see you all at Tripoli’s 25th Silver Anniversary National Convention here in the Texas Panhandle.

WWW.LDRS25.org
Pat Gordzelik
Launch Director

OK, shameless plug over. Vote. For somebody. Or nobody will you be...


Pat Gordzelik
Age 50 TRA 5746, L3. TAP NAR 70807 L3CC. Founder/Prefect/President Potrocs (Panhandle of Texas Rocketry Society) Inc., Tripoli Amarillo # 92. Vice President, Tripoli Rocketry Association Inc. Married to Lauretta Gordzelik, TRA 7217, L2.

I was born in Amarillo Texas, but raised on a ranch by my Grandmother in northeastern New Mexico after my Father died when I was six years old. I came back to Amarillo in the 60’s, where my bride of 25 years Lauretta and I now call home. I own and operate a fastening systems business (PGP Inc.) with three locations, one in Amarillo, Lubbock TX, and Clovis, New Mexico, which I founded in 1982. I also own/operate a mfg/distribution company of small hobby greenhouses (Triple S Greenhouses, www.gardenhouse.com). In addition, Lauretta (who is a Doctor of Pharmacy) and I own a Pharmaceutical consulting business (QAP Inc.) that addresses needs of small hospitals, nursing homes, etc, to keep them compliant with a myriad of rules and regulations from State and Federal agencies. Lauretta supplies the medical expertise in this venture as its President, while I handle the administration as Vice President. My educational background is local, with degrees in Business Administration in Accounting, and Personnel Management, the latter of which came in handy in the 70’s when I was Personnel Director for a large hospital in Amarillo.

My efforts as a TRA BOD member in the last three years have been personally rewarding, and I believe productive for the TRA membership. I have represented TRA with the BATFE not only in Washington DC, but also in regional meetings. Our ongoing lawsuit with this entity is coming to what I feel is a positive conclusion. I have never missed a BoD meeting to discuss TRA business, either via teleconference, or at national conventions. I was able to maximize my influence in the SCI FI (NBC affiliate) series Masterblasters to circumnavigate possible “harmful to our hobby” scenarios. My involvement in finalizing the organization’s new magazine issue has ended on a positive note. I have represented Tripoli in NASA (Nasa/Dryden Aero spike tests), with the Pecos County Spaceport, and the Xprize/Xcup foundation held in Las Cruces, New Mexico.
As a Tripoli Research enthusiast, I am thrilled that the Board has unanimously voted to allow, under listed conditions, commercial motors at Research launches here in the United States. It is tremendous step forward that started with my proposal to allow David Wilkins’ Prefecture in Australia to combine “Experimental” with commercial motors, for data and experience accumulation.
My pet project, and one that I hope I can continue as a TRA board member, is involving Tripoli with Academia. This effort I believe will bring additional respectability to our organization that will open doors for us in the future. My work for Texas Tech University as an instructor that uses rocketry as an excitement generator to entice America’s future engineers

https://www.engineeringoutreach.ttu.edu/institute/catalog/rock201.php
has not only educated college and high school level teachers in the usage of rocketry as a learning tool, but also resulted in underprivileged high school students realizing their dreams and goals, rewarding them with a Texas State Resolution:
https://www.engineeringoutreach.ttu.edu/news/articles/2005/sr1064.php (State Resolution)
https://www.engineeringoutreach.ttu.edu/news/articles/2005/20050526.php (news article)
In addition to work done with the above programs, and through contacts with the Texas Aerospace division’s Col. Bill Looke, reporting directly to the Texas Governor, I have managed to include Tripoli on the advisory board for the Texas Partnership for Aerospace Education (TPAE). https://www.aerospacetexas.com/TPAE2005.html. This is a consortium of entities that include Texas Tech University, Midland College, and the Pecos County WESTEX Aerospace Development Corporation. The Pecos County Westex Aerospace Development Center’s strategic goal is to leverage Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) operators, Air Force programs and government, educational and commercial technology demonstration to West Texas.
Three years ago, the membership elected me to serve a term on the Tripoli Board of Directors. My intent then was only to serve one term. However, many of you have asked me to run again. One of my rocketry friends told me “Look, Pat, I know you are one busy fellow. But there is an old adage that says, ‘If you need a job done, find the busiest guy you know and give him the ball’”. Well folks, while I appreciate the sentiment, remember that one TRA board member is part of a 9-pony wagon. It takes all 9 BoD board members pulling that wagon to get anywhere. And all 9 members not only have to represent the majority of TRA’s membership, but they also have to work together and possess the ability to form a winning team.

Perhaps that is the essence of my decision to run again. In my professional life, I have built winning teams for over 25 years. As a small business owner, I have learned to recognize and utilize the strengths of my teammates, and in essence have “handed them the ball” when the call demanded their particular expertise. That management style has allowed my companies to succeed and thrive in an increasingly hostile environment, where “Big Boxes” and large corporation conglomerates threaten a small company’s very existence. I see that happening on the TRA board. While I certainly cannot take credit for everything the Board has accomplished in the last three years, I do believe that my business acumen has contributed to its success.

So the decision is yours, TRA members. But please allow me to offer some final observations. Whom ever you vote for, consider whether he or she is the person you want to represent your interests and the Tripoli membership majority … and to represent TRA with regulatory agencies, Academia and private enterprise. Do you feel that the candidate can work with and/or influence the rest of the Board to represent you? Do you think that the candidate is capable of rational, logical, and informed decision making that will represent your long-term best interests in this present day’s complicated world?

If you believe that I meet the above requirements, and agree that my service to you in my first term as TRA BoD member has been of value, then I am again asking for your vote and the opportunity to serve you for three more years.

Sincerely,

Pat G.
 

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Glad to hear you are running again for relection, Pat. I think you have been a great asset to the board over this last term and you already have my vote.
 

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I would urge all those with any interest in research/ex, present or future, to give serious consideration to supporting Pat's reelection bid.

He has been a vigorous supporter of ex--forgive me if i lapse into the older, less P.C. nomenclature--activities and is undoubtedly one of the most knowledgeable individuals in our hobby, if not the world at large, in the science/craft of making APCP motors.

As i understand the situation, to say he was instumental in forging a compromise that allows for the commingling of ex and commercial motors, and narrowing the window between purely commercial and mixed activities, is an understatement.

Our hobby/avocation/pasttime is in crisis, not in the usual sense of the word but as in the crossroads between opportunity and danger. The real danger imho is that growth is stagnant: vendors come and go, fliers too, with even greater frequency. Not sure why but my guess is financial barriers. Sooner or later you run of room between what you want to do and can afford to.

Hybrids and homemade reloads help a lot in extending the participation window. Point is a vote for Pat is for the future of hpr.

john s

ps: i don't know pat personally, and have no special interest in this beyond the reasons given.
 

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I am not a member of Tripoli yet, but when I join, Pat is one of the main reasons. Pat really does not know me, but He and Lauretta treat all rocketers as part of the family, and no one is a stranger. I was lucky enough to have Pat sign off on both my level 1 and my level 2, as a NAR representative, and can think of no better person to represent the hobby as a whole. If I had the opportunity, he would definitely get my vote!

Mike Dickinson
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Thankfully for all of us in Tripoli, men with the dedication (and a hide thick enough for the inevitable abuse) and skills such as Pat are willing to step up and take on one of the most important (and truly thankless) jobs to keep our hobby going.
Over the years I have been very impressed with Pat's abilities and consider our organization most fortunate to have him on the board.
Needless to say he has always had, and will continue to have my support.
 

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Pat-
A question.
As I understand it, TRA commercial and research launches are not to be combined for insurance purposes.
What is the possibility of having two distinct insurance policies and designating prefectures as "Standard" or "Research"?
The prefectures could decide which they choose to be.
The standard ones would continue with the status quo while those that choose research could mix and match as they see fit.
Yes, the research choice would likely cost more, but you gotta pay to play, right?

Thanks,

Greg
 

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Greg, that is a fair question, and I am glad you asked it. As many of you know, I am the insurance liason between the org and our carrier. I was given this job because I have probably more experience with insurance companies and underwriters than anyone on the board. Not only do my own companies spend double the cost of the Tripoli insurance policy, but I also held a fire, life, auto, casualty, and health certificate in the State of Texas as a licensed insurance agent with Farmer's Ins (fast fair friendly service was the motto, funny how one remembers adv. jingles from years back). And I would like to add that my experience has paid off for TRA, as I was able to get our premiums down from 118K to 99K for this flying season.

Ok, enough with the qualifications.

To cut to the chase, the "insurance company" could care squat about what days we launch commercial, and what days we launch Research (old term, experimental). They are insuring a risk, namely, rocket launching, an activity that, historically speaking from a claim perspective, is safer than golf. Our activity has this safety record because we follow and abide by a stringent safety code/s. The underwriters and risk analysts look at that safety record, and the codes we follow, (and a lot of other things) and then they tell the insurance bean counters the odds of our named peril (rocket launching) producing a loss (claim). And then the insurance company sets the rate, with high hopes of a big fat profit margin and no claims.

The code we follow is actually two codes. One following NFPA 1127, and the other the TRA research code. The underwriters accept's TRA self codified Research code because of our record, and because we also attach a nationally recognized code to the policy. We could separate them as you suggest and procure two policies, but an insurance company really is not apt to secure a policy that covers world wide events for much less than 100K. So, in effect, it would actually cost a lot more to the org. (more on that later).

Now, remember when I told you that our insurance policy cost us this year 99K? I asked the broker after I finally negotiated down the amount what the difference would be if we only pursued NFPA 1127, and dropped our codified TRA Research code. The answer? Zippo. But they do require us (at underwriters/loss prevention specialists/risk analysts request) to separate the two perils for actuarial experience in the event of claims.

Pat "Buy one, get one free" G

Originally posted by 11Bravo
Pat-
A question.
As I understand it, TRA commercial and research launches are not to be combined for insurance purposes.
What is the possibility of having two distinct insurance policies and designating prefectures as "Standard" or "Research"?
The prefectures could decide which they choose to be.
The standard ones would continue with the status quo while those that choose research could mix and match as they see fit.
Yes, the research choice would likely cost more, but you gotta pay to play, right?

Thanks,

Greg
:D :D
 

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Greg,

Coming from a prefecture that consists of a dedicated corp of X-men, Tripoli-Colorado, I don't like this idea a bit. We fly equal number of research and commercial launches and struggle with the task of offering a venue for those with an interest in HPR to get started, while providing the only site in the state where research motors can be flown under insurance. Dividing the two activities as you suggest only invites insurance carriers to cherry pick what they see as lower liability and hence higher profit pools. Unless it can be demonstrated that Research events are truly more hazardous, you are inviting insurance companies then to dictate the future of our hobby. I've seen what they have done to medicine in the last 20 years and it aint pretty.

But even if were true that EX is more claim prone: by analogy lets say that all male drivers under the age of 21 had to be covered separately. You think many could afford to drive, even though it might be a fair and proportionate allocation of actuarial risk?

My guess is male teenagers wouldn't stop driving, instead they might just stop being insured. So Ex goes back into the netherworld. The hobby stagnates, and a really big motor becomes an M again. This isn't my idea of where we want to head,

John S
 

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This is not a venue to argue points with the candidates. Please stick to a Q&A format here as has previously been requested.
 

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Got me 99% answered and I can't figure out how to ask to get the other 1%, so I'll have to live with it. :D

Greg
 

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My name is Pat Gordzelik, and I am running for a second term on the Tripoli Board of Directors. I appreciate the invite from one of this forums members, (Al Gloer), and the opportunity to participate in a heretofore unknown to me resource. As I explore the topics listed on this forum and read the replies, I can see that many of its members are not only fervent about this wonderful hobby of ours, but that they also realize that their passions future is dependant upon decisions made in their behalf. And I hope to assure you that not only do I have the desire to represent your best interests, but also the ability, and the track record, to make those decisions that could effect us all.

You will notice in my below resume that not only am I a member of TRA, but also NAR. I also count among my friends, members of IEAS, CERTA, ARSA, CAR, UKRA, and RRS. Heresy, some may say, but my involvement transcends rocketry organizations. Example. Google my name, Pat Gordzelik, and make your own decisions of that involvement. For yet another example, my role with www.flyrockets.com (look at the credits section) was to bring together a consortium of interests involving all individuals, regardless of affiliation, whose goal was to, literally, fly rockets. Any size, any type, every dream.

Today, that dream is one that has a healthy future. As I peruse this forums membership, I see many next generation folks eager anticipation of that future and their place in it. I work with like minded youth constantly in Texas Universities and @ the K12 level, and quite frankly, their enthusiasm fuels my own fire, that being, to insure that was available to me, will be available for them in the future.

But that future demands a goal, a direction, and yes, a responsibility, to become a reality. Your next Tripoli board must decide fiduciary responsibility of the usage of your funds. They must navigate the myriad of federal, state, and local laws that affect your hobby. They must have the backbone and the vision to not cave in to It feels good now, blind to any future ramifications from well meaning but shortsighted requests. And last, but not least, they must (in my opinion), have that fire in their belly that reminds them of their desire to serve, and why the passion exists. Fly rockets.

And speaking of flying rockets, a shameless plug. I hope to see you all at Tripolis 25th Silver Anniversary National Convention here in the Texas Panhandle.

WWW.LDRS25.org
Pat Gordzelik
Launch Director

OK, shameless plug over. Vote. For somebody. Or nobody will you be...


Pat Gordzelik
Age 50 TRA 5746, L3. TAP NAR 70807 L3CC. Founder/Prefect/President Potrocs (Panhandle of Texas Rocketry Society) Inc., Tripoli Amarillo # 92. Vice President, Tripoli Rocketry Association Inc. Married to Lauretta Gordzelik, TRA 7217, L2.

I was born in Amarillo Texas, but raised on a ranch by my Grandmother in northeastern New Mexico after my Father died when I was six years old. I came back to Amarillo in the 60s, where my bride of 25 years Lauretta and I now call home. I own and operate a fastening systems business (PGP Inc.) with three locations, one in Amarillo, Lubbock TX, and Clovis, New Mexico, which I founded in 1982. I also own/operate a mfg/distribution company of small hobby greenhouses (Triple S Greenhouses, www.gardenhouse.com). In addition, Lauretta (who is a Doctor of Pharmacy) and I own a Pharmaceutical consulting business (QAP Inc.) that addresses needs of small hospitals, nursing homes, etc, to keep them compliant with a myriad of rules and regulations from State and Federal agencies. Lauretta supplies the medical expertise in this venture as its President, while I handle the administration as Vice President. My educational background is local, with degrees in Business Administration in Accounting, and Personnel Management, the latter of which came in handy in the 70s when I was Personnel Director for a large hospital in Amarillo.

My efforts as a TRA BOD member in the last three years have been personally rewarding, and I believe productive for the TRA membership. I have represented TRA with the BATFE not only in Washington DC, but also in regional meetings. Our ongoing lawsuit with this entity is coming to what I feel is a positive conclusion. I have never missed a BoD meeting to discuss TRA business, either via teleconference, or at national conventions. I was able to maximize my influence in the SCI FI (NBC affiliate) series Masterblasters to circumnavigate possible harmful to our hobby scenarios. My involvement in finalizing the organizations new magazine issue has ended on a positive note. I have represented Tripoli in NASA (Nasa/Dryden Aero spike tests), with the Pecos County Spaceport, and the Xprize/Xcup foundation held in Las Cruces, New Mexico.
As a Tripoli Research enthusiast, I am thrilled that the Board has unanimously voted to allow, under listed conditions, commercial motors at Research launches here in the United States. It is tremendous step forward that started with my proposal to allow David Wilkins Prefecture in Australia to combine Experimental with commercial motors, for data and experience accumulation.
My pet project, and one that I hope I can continue as a TRA board member, is involving Tripoli with Academia. This effort I believe will bring additional respectability to our organization that will open doors for us in the future. My work for Texas Tech University as an instructor that uses rocketry as an excitement generator to entice Americas future engineers

https://www.engineeringoutreach.ttu.edu/institute/catalog/rock201.php
has not only educated college and high school level teachers in the usage of rocketry as a learning tool, but also resulted in underprivileged high school students realizing their dreams and goals, rewarding them with a Texas State Resolution:
https://www.engineeringoutreach.ttu.edu/news/articles/2005/sr1064.php (State Resolution)
https://www.engineeringoutreach.ttu.edu/news/articles/2005/20050526.php (news article)
In addition to work done with the above programs, and through contacts with the Texas Aerospace divisions Col. Bill Looke, reporting directly to the Texas Governor, I have managed to include Tripoli on the advisory board for the Texas Partnership for Aerospace Education (TPAE). https://www.aerospacetexas.com/TPAE2005.html. This is a consortium of entities that include Texas Tech University, Midland College, and the Pecos County WESTEX Aerospace Development Corporation. The Pecos County Westex Aerospace Development Centers strategic goal is to leverage Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) operators, Air Force programs and government, educational and commercial technology demonstration to West Texas.
Three years ago, the membership elected me to serve a term on the Tripoli Board of Directors. My intent then was only to serve one term. However, many of you have asked me to run again. One of my rocketry friends told me Look, Pat, I know you are one busy fellow. But there is an old adage that says, If you need a job done, find the busiest guy you know and give him the ball. Well folks, while I appreciate the sentiment, remember that one TRA board member is part of a 9-pony wagon. It takes all 9 BoD board members pulling that wagon to get anywhere. And all 9 members not only have to represent the majority of TRAs membership, but they also have to work together and possess the ability to form a winning team.

Perhaps that is the essence of my decision to run again. In my professional life, I have built winning teams for over 25 years. As a small business owner, I have learned to recognize and utilize the strengths of my teammates, and in essence have handed them the ball when the call demanded their particular expertise. That management style has allowed my companies to succeed and thrive in an increasingly hostile environment, where Big Boxes and large corporation conglomerates threaten a small companys very existence. I see that happening on the TRA board. While I certainly cannot take credit for everything the Board has accomplished in the last three years, I do believe that my business acumen has contributed to its success.

So the decision is yours, TRA members. But please allow me to offer some final observations. Whom ever you vote for, consider whether he or she is the person you want to represent your interests and the Tripoli membership majority and to represent TRA with regulatory agencies, Academia and private enterprise. Do you feel that the candidate can work with and/or influence the rest of the Board to represent you? Do you think that the candidate is capable of rational, logical, and informed decision making that will represent your long-term best interests in this present days complicated world?

If you believe that I meet the above requirements, and agree that my service to you in my first term as TRA BoD member has been of value, then I am again asking for your vote and the opportunity to serve you for three more years.

Sincerely,

Pat G.
You've got my vote Pat!
By the way, thank you very much for your kind gift to Tripoli North Texas!!
 

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Although Pat isn’t running this year, several other passionate rocketeers are. If you’re a voting member of Tripoli go to www.Tripoli.org, research the candidates who are running, and vote.
Whew!
Thanks for the clarification Steve.
When this thread popped up in my inbox this morning, I was terrified that maybe I had drank too much Capn Morgan last nite and did something stoopid….

Pat
 

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Whew!
Thanks for the clarification Steve.
When this thread popped up in my inbox this morning, I was terrified that maybe I had drank too much Capn Morgan last nite and did something stoopid….

Pat

Caught my eye too Pat. Had to do some scrolling to see what was up and go back to the TRA site to make sure I got my votes in.

It was a, "What the Hades" moment for me too.

Kurt Savegnago
 

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Whew!
Thanks for the clarification Steve.
When this thread popped up in my inbox this morning, I was terrified that maybe I had drank too much Capn Morgan last nite and did something stoopid….

Pat
When I first saw the title pop up in the “New Posts” I wondered if you had decided to throw your hat back in the ring as a write-in candidate. Then I wondered if the electronic polling system allows write-ins. Of course you’re always welcome to run again. I’d enjoy serving with you.
 

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When I first saw the title pop up in the “New Posts” I wondered if you had decided to throw your hat back in the ring as a write-in candidate. Then I wondered if the electronic polling system allows write-ins. Of course you’re always welcome to run again. I’d enjoy serving with you.
Thanks Steve.
But too late, just to play it safe I tossed out all the Cap’n. …..

Pat
 

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Hey now......,

You had me going there for a second! LOL!

If memory serves, Pat did win. And did a great Job on the TRA BOD. Ah...good times!

Brad
 
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