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"M" powered Lunar Module!
Fun fact I realized about the Lunar Module Quad. Its propulsion system can deliver at least 8000 N-sec of total impulse, an M motor! If the hover thrust and flight duration (up to 10 minutes on 3000 mAh) are converted into newton-seconds, it is at least 8000 N-sec, a full “M” is 10200 N-s. While for horizontal flight, it uses more thrust than during hover, so even for a 10 minute flight it had done a lot more than just hover, it moved around horizontally so that would be more than 8,000. Or if I upgraded it to 4000 mAh to increase flight time about 20-25%. So, either or both of those factors might nudge into a “N” class motor. OK, so not the same thing as using rocket power, because of the lack of fire and smoke. But otherwise, incredible efficiency of thrust to weight of the system (hell of a lot lighter than an “M” motor), and cost per flight of "pennies", not hundreds of dollars! ). And I do not need to fill out a flight card, and can fly my “M” N-sec model in the front yard!
M14-P4-AE (M class, 14 Newton average thrust, 4 propellers, Air & Electricity "propellant".
Last time, I posted about the strut mold, side 1 was curing. So, after curing, the clay was peeled away, careful not to dislodge the master strut assembly from the RTV rubber. The negative impression as seen in the peeled away red clay, is exactly what the 2nd layer of the RTV mold will look like.
Note how the alignment holes pressed into the clay created raised pins on the first RTV layer. Bits of left over red clay were easily removed.
I shifted the 5-sided mold fence upwards, to prepare to pour the second half of the mold (no photo of this). After getting it just right, I realized there would be some leaks, so I needed to mix up a bit of RTV and brush into the areas that would leak, and let that cure. A day later, carefully brushed a special Mold Release onto all the exposed RTV, so that the second layer would not bond to the first layer. Wanted be really sure, so after a lot of time to dry, gave it a second coat and a lot more time to dry.
Mixed up more RTV, brushed RTV along all the master part surfaces and edges meeting the first RTV layer, to avoid air voids. Then poured RTV to fill up the rest of the mold.
At left below, the mold is curing. Note that I added a removable piece 1/4” tube (at a diagonal angle)that will last most of a hollow hole into the 3/8” tube portion that a leg will lift thru. After casting a part, the rest of the hole will be drilled out. Also in place are two 7/64” drill bits, I did to have any 7/64” rods to use. These will be used during casting, for 7/64” rods to cast holes in the mounting lugs, for 4-40 screws to pass thru. When a casting is done, while the resin is still "green", the temporary insert rods and tube will be removed, then the mold left alone for a full hard cure before the mold is peeled apart and the cast assembly removed.
On the right, the mold with the wooden 5-sided mold fence removed, and 1/4” tube and rods removed. I started to peel the two parts apart along the edge a bit and the mold release worked well. However, the 2nd layer of RTV felt like it needed a bit more time to cure so I left it intact for another day. So, no cast leg struts yet.
While waiting for curing I’d been doing some related work, partly by flying my 250 Quad for practice and trying things out. My 250 Quad had not been getting a good GPS lock. I swapped to a different GPS module and it got GPS lock very well, so the old GPS module is bad. First time I've had a bad one, so that adds to the experience base.
Alt Hold mode is a fun way to fly at low altitude, but the barometer does vary a bit and that can be trickier close to the ground. So, I looked into using “Sonar” (ultrasonic sensor).
https://ardupilot.org/copter/docs/sonar.html
I ordered one and it arrived Friday. Its realistic altitude detection range will be about 12-16 feet (4-5 meters). When too high up or poor signal, the F.C. will default back to the barometer.
So, here it is after adding a 100 uf capacitor and wiring in a shielded cable.
It was not working with the F.C at first, but I did use a voltmeter to confirm it was working, the analog voltage got higher when the distance increased, and lower when I move a sheet of paper closer to it. I finally found out the problem, it was in the Mission Planner software's parameter settings, found and enabled the correct analog pin value for the controller. Once it was working, then made some tweaks in Mission Planner to calibrate it.
I’ll be testing this out THOROUGHLY on the 250 Quad, before deciding whether to add it to the Lunar Module. I need to modify the 250 Quad, so the Sonar can be mounted in the belly, where the battery is now. So I’ll have to reposition the battery as well as make up a belly mount for the Sonar which will allow it to work yet also protect it in hard landings.
Of course, the real Lunar Module had an active distance-above-surface sensor. In that case it was Radar, sending and receiving radio waves to determine distance for several miles rather than sound waves measuring in feet. It was mounted to the bottom of the Descent Stage.
(above from: https://www.braeunig.us/apollo/LM-descent.htm)
Below, a drawing of the exterior of the Landing Radar (inverted, on left, and facing down on right)
So, if I do add this, it will be somewhat realistic to have an active distance-scanning "something-AR" onboard, sensing the altitude above the surface during the landing.
Fun fact I realized about the Lunar Module Quad. Its propulsion system can deliver at least 8000 N-sec of total impulse, an M motor! If the hover thrust and flight duration (up to 10 minutes on 3000 mAh) are converted into newton-seconds, it is at least 8000 N-sec, a full “M” is 10200 N-s. While for horizontal flight, it uses more thrust than during hover, so even for a 10 minute flight it had done a lot more than just hover, it moved around horizontally so that would be more than 8,000. Or if I upgraded it to 4000 mAh to increase flight time about 20-25%. So, either or both of those factors might nudge into a “N” class motor. OK, so not the same thing as using rocket power, because of the lack of fire and smoke. But otherwise, incredible efficiency of thrust to weight of the system (hell of a lot lighter than an “M” motor), and cost per flight of "pennies", not hundreds of dollars! ). And I do not need to fill out a flight card, and can fly my “M” N-sec model in the front yard!
M14-P4-AE (M class, 14 Newton average thrust, 4 propellers, Air & Electricity "propellant".
Last time, I posted about the strut mold, side 1 was curing. So, after curing, the clay was peeled away, careful not to dislodge the master strut assembly from the RTV rubber. The negative impression as seen in the peeled away red clay, is exactly what the 2nd layer of the RTV mold will look like.

Note how the alignment holes pressed into the clay created raised pins on the first RTV layer. Bits of left over red clay were easily removed.

I shifted the 5-sided mold fence upwards, to prepare to pour the second half of the mold (no photo of this). After getting it just right, I realized there would be some leaks, so I needed to mix up a bit of RTV and brush into the areas that would leak, and let that cure. A day later, carefully brushed a special Mold Release onto all the exposed RTV, so that the second layer would not bond to the first layer. Wanted be really sure, so after a lot of time to dry, gave it a second coat and a lot more time to dry.
Mixed up more RTV, brushed RTV along all the master part surfaces and edges meeting the first RTV layer, to avoid air voids. Then poured RTV to fill up the rest of the mold.
At left below, the mold is curing. Note that I added a removable piece 1/4” tube (at a diagonal angle)that will last most of a hollow hole into the 3/8” tube portion that a leg will lift thru. After casting a part, the rest of the hole will be drilled out. Also in place are two 7/64” drill bits, I did to have any 7/64” rods to use. These will be used during casting, for 7/64” rods to cast holes in the mounting lugs, for 4-40 screws to pass thru. When a casting is done, while the resin is still "green", the temporary insert rods and tube will be removed, then the mold left alone for a full hard cure before the mold is peeled apart and the cast assembly removed.

On the right, the mold with the wooden 5-sided mold fence removed, and 1/4” tube and rods removed. I started to peel the two parts apart along the edge a bit and the mold release worked well. However, the 2nd layer of RTV felt like it needed a bit more time to cure so I left it intact for another day. So, no cast leg struts yet.
While waiting for curing I’d been doing some related work, partly by flying my 250 Quad for practice and trying things out. My 250 Quad had not been getting a good GPS lock. I swapped to a different GPS module and it got GPS lock very well, so the old GPS module is bad. First time I've had a bad one, so that adds to the experience base.
Alt Hold mode is a fun way to fly at low altitude, but the barometer does vary a bit and that can be trickier close to the ground. So, I looked into using “Sonar” (ultrasonic sensor).
https://ardupilot.org/copter/docs/sonar.html
I ordered one and it arrived Friday. Its realistic altitude detection range will be about 12-16 feet (4-5 meters). When too high up or poor signal, the F.C. will default back to the barometer.

So, here it is after adding a 100 uf capacitor and wiring in a shielded cable.

It was not working with the F.C at first, but I did use a voltmeter to confirm it was working, the analog voltage got higher when the distance increased, and lower when I move a sheet of paper closer to it. I finally found out the problem, it was in the Mission Planner software's parameter settings, found and enabled the correct analog pin value for the controller. Once it was working, then made some tweaks in Mission Planner to calibrate it.
I’ll be testing this out THOROUGHLY on the 250 Quad, before deciding whether to add it to the Lunar Module. I need to modify the 250 Quad, so the Sonar can be mounted in the belly, where the battery is now. So I’ll have to reposition the battery as well as make up a belly mount for the Sonar which will allow it to work yet also protect it in hard landings.
Of course, the real Lunar Module had an active distance-above-surface sensor. In that case it was Radar, sending and receiving radio waves to determine distance for several miles rather than sound waves measuring in feet. It was mounted to the bottom of the Descent Stage.

(above from: https://www.braeunig.us/apollo/LM-descent.htm)
Below, a drawing of the exterior of the Landing Radar (inverted, on left, and facing down on right)

So, if I do add this, it will be somewhat realistic to have an active distance-scanning "something-AR" onboard, sensing the altitude above the surface during the landing.
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