3D Printing FLSUN T1 Pro

[cwbullet]

I just bought a new T1 Pro printer. I initially started an order 2 years ago for a V400 and a birdie told they were coming out with a new model so I waited. Money was not write for a T1 so I waited again. The T1Pro was announced 2 weeks ago and I got one for 399.

It looks great for nose cones. Anyone else catch this deal?

The sale sold out in hours,

https://flsun3d.com/pages/t1-pro

 

[Huxter]

Impressive specs for $399!

 

[Rschub]

The FLSun discord is not impressed in general with the implementation of klipper on any of their printers. Most recommend replacing it with an authorized version.
These are real hardcore users though.
I have yet to finish assembling my V400, so I have no direct experience. T1 pro does look nice.

 

[OzHybrid]

They take up a lot of extra space vertically. Is there any advantage from this type of printer?

 

[Rschub]

Umm, you can print tall narrow things?

 

[OzHybrid]

Umm, you can print tall narrow things?

You can do that with a core xy. 400mm cubes are readily available.
Build height for this is 330, so less and you've got an overall height of 836 so 500mm of dead space for the gubbins.
Not seeing any specific advantage. Clue me more.....No red herrings this time.
They look like you should be able to print long thin things, but the reality is nope...you can't.

 

[Rschub]

I admit my reply was a little flippant. The reason I like them is because I enjoy things that are out of the mainstream. A quote comes to mind.

“People's reactions to opera the first time they see it is very dramatic; they either love it or they hate it. If they love it, they will always love it. If they don't, they may learn to appreciate it, but it will never become part of their soul.”

So, I wish you luck with your cube printers, you can stack them to the ceiling in a very efficient manner. I will take the road less traveled.

 

[OzHybrid]

I admit my reply was a little flippant. The reason I like them is because I enjoy things that are out of the mainstream. A quote comes to mind.

“People's reactions to opera the first time they see it is very dramatic; they either love it or they hate it. If they love it, they will always love it. If they don't, they may learn to appreciate it, but it will never become part of their soul.”

So, I wish you luck with your cube printers, you can stack them to the ceiling in a very efficient manner. I will take the road less traveled.

I'm genuinely curious if there is an advantage. I know the mechanism is used for industrial pick and place machines. But in those the action is more side to side.
From a diagnostics perspective, I could identify what the issue is on a core xy by isolating each axis. The diagnostics on this would be challenging if a subtle issue started to occur.

 

[Rschub]

The theoretical advantage is that the mass of the moving parts can be much less, so higher speeds are possible. All the forces are transmitted along the centerline of 3 extremely stiff, lightweight carbon fiber shafts. The only moving weight is the print head. In practice the XYZ machines have brute forced the mechanics to come close to the Deltas.
At the time I bought the V400 they were advertising speeds of 400mm sec, when most other printers were at around 150-200. And it was the cheapest 400mm Z axis printer by a large margin.
The nuances of CNC control in things like circular interpolation mean that the Delta can make a perfect circle or ellipse, the XYZ must step around the circle in a series of tiny straight lines. In practice this is not normally noticeable. But I once had a machinist cut out an ellipse for a product and the machine slowed noticeably by about 2/3 as it went around the contour, I was told to never do that again. This was using the latest Mastercam software, not a second tier program.
A downside of that is that the calculations to move the print head correctly are complex and need a better processor.

Having said all that, if I were doing it over I would get one of the more popular brands since there is much more advice and support available for a noob like me.

 

[cwbullet]

You can do that with a core xy. 400mm cubes are readily available.
Build height for this is 330, so less and you've got an overall height of 836 so 500mm of dead space for the gubbins.
Not seeing any specific advantage. Clue me more.....No red herrings this time.
They look like you should be able to print long thin things, but the reality is nope...you can't.

The size advantage is 300mm x 400 but it does taper at the top. In general, you can print easily without the taper to 285mm tall. That is still pretty large.

I have been lusting after the commercial engineering grade Prusa Delta. It will print peek and ultem.

 

[cwbullet]

The size advantage is 300mm x 400 but it does taper at the top.

I confused the S1 with the T1. The T1 is 230x330.

After a few week use, it is a delta that has Bambu like features. So far, I really like it. I printed a boat tail that was 8 inches in diameter. The added size with quality is nice. I could have pinned it on my X1C or MK4 but in 2 pieces.

 

[NTP2]

I have been lusting after the commercial engineering grade Prusa Delta. It will print peek and ultem.

Can you afford PEEK? It’s like 800$ a roll!!