I just completed my first AT reload. H180 in a 29/240 case, and am confident I did it correctly but ended up with this. Did I neglect something, or is this a part they include for a different motor? Thanks in advance.
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All correct. The FSD comes with the 29/240 case but only 3 reloads for that case require it.
They are the H220, H210 & H250.
When you do use one of these reloads and the FSD be sure to remember to extract the FSD when you empty the case of the burned stuff. Very easy to forget it is in there and throw it away (know one person that did this).
Edited Typo.... H180 does NOT require FSD. it is the H220 that does.
They are the H220, H210 & H250.
When you do use one of these reloads and the FSD be sure to remember to extract the FSD when you empty the case of the burned stuff. Very easy to forget it is in there and throw it away (know one person that did this).
Edited Typo.... H180 does NOT require FSD. it is the H220 that does.
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So waltr, your saying the H180 W motor requires this seal disc?
He probably meant the H220T. You can see on your reload tube that it's not in the list of hardware required for your H180W.
Just want to be sure I did not screw anything up.
I understand.
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Edit: Don't follow this advice, see below reply's for more accurate advice.
The H180 DOES need the seal disk. I just flew one 2 weeks ago. The instructions that were included in the package were for the wrong case (29/60-180)! I have notified AT.
Please check your instructions to see if they are for the 29/240 case. If not you can see the correct instructions here.
https://d11fdyfhxcs9cr.cloudfront.n...360 plus 2-pg instr 10-5-20_1656446658838.pdf
The H180 DOES need the seal disk. I just flew one 2 weeks ago. The instructions that were included in the package were for the wrong case (29/60-180)! I have notified AT.
Please check your instructions to see if they are for the 29/240 case. If not you can see the correct instructions here.
https://d11fdyfhxcs9cr.cloudfront.n...360 plus 2-pg instr 10-5-20_1656446658838.pdf
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You are right. I have the instructions for the 29/60-180. The label on the shipping tube does not include the seal disc in RMS hardware required. Confused.
From AT:
Seal disk is not listed.
Instructions are here:
https://d11fdyfhxcs9cr.cloudfront.n...images/29_120-240w_in_20051_1642632952860.pdf
No seal disk required. @rocketace, that's the generic 29/240 drawing, each load has instructions. The White Lightning instructions happen to be the same for the 29/120, 29/180, and 29/240 loads.
For anyone that hasn't already, bookmark
https://www.rocketmotorparts.com/page/instructions
Seal disk is not listed.
Instructions are here:
https://d11fdyfhxcs9cr.cloudfront.n...images/29_120-240w_in_20051_1642632952860.pdf
No seal disk required. @rocketace, that's the generic 29/240 drawing, each load has instructions. The White Lightning instructions happen to be the same for the 29/120, 29/180, and 29/240 loads.
For anyone that hasn't already, bookmark
https://www.rocketmotorparts.com/page/instructions
OK I'm still confused.
Do I or do I not need the disc seal??
Don't want to tear down the motor if it's not needed. I seem to be getting conflicting info and sure don't want to fire off an unsafe motor.
Thanks All.
Do I or do I not need the disc seal??
Don't want to tear down the motor if it's not needed. I seem to be getting conflicting info and sure don't want to fire off an unsafe motor.
Thanks All.
The only thing that kinda points to needing a seal disk is the generic 29/240 drawing. If that makes you feel nervous enough to not fly the motor in the face of the instructions and packaging, you should email Aerotech and ask directly.
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Good historical resource, but missing the more recent releases.
Ask here, Aerotech monitors this thread:
https://www.rocketryforum.com/threads/aerotech-open-thread.125657/page-204
https://www.rocketryforum.com/threads/aerotech-open-thread.125657/page-204
That's where they'll go when they get uploaded, I believe. Is there somewhere else I should look too? This is the repository linked from Aerotech's website.
waltr
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Correct. I listed the wrong reload---- Above post fixed.
It is the H210, H220 & H250 in the 29-240 case that require the FSD.
The H97 & H180 does NOT need the FSD.
Sorry for the confusion.
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I was definitely wrong on this one. I did use the generic ones. I was in the field and grabbed the first resource on ATs website. I would follow what jamsterj posted which are specific to the H180W. I would not recommend going against the specific instructions, but luckily mine did burn fine.
One thing to note... whenever you DO fly a motor that needs the seal disc, BE CAREFUL that you don't mistakenly throw it out when you clean the motor case out! It's easier to absent-mindedly throw those out than you would think.
Thanks for all the info here!
I have emailed, and posted on the Aerotech Open Thread this question also. So in the meantime I am not going to disassemble unless AT tells me to do so. BTW Apogee wasn't able to definitely answer this question either.
Bob
I have emailed, and posted on the Aerotech Open Thread this question also. So in the meantime I am not going to disassemble unless AT tells me to do so. BTW Apogee wasn't able to definitely answer this question either.
Bob
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