# Estes (North Coast Rocketry) Phantom 4000 question.

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#### Vance in AK

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Our local (only) hobby shop carries very little rocket stuff, but one thing he does have is the West Coast Rocketry Phantom 4000.
It's a set that includes an Estes launcher. He claims the original price was about $150.00, but he'll let me have it for$75.00.
I a low power kind of a guy, & I can't buy anything bigger than an E motor around here, but I must admit I'm thinking of offering him $50.00. Anyone have any idea what they are really worth? Was this a good flyer? Vance in Ak. #### sandman ##### Well-Known Member Buy it...and don't look back. That's a good deal! sandman #### KenParker ##### Well-Known Member As you probably know, North Coast Rocketry kits have been out of production for some time. Even if you don't want the kit, if you can get it for$50 I'm sure that you could make a profit selling it on ROL.

As a matter of fact, if you don't want it, but are willing to act as an agent for me, send me a PM and we'll discuss my procurement of it through you.

Yes, it was a good flyer.

#### Vance in AK

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Thanks guys.
Ken, I will keep you in mind. I may pick it up for myself, but for the price of the motors for about two flights for the Phantom I think I can pick up a Blast Off Pack at Toys are Us, so I'm not sure.
Anybody know what single use Fs& Gs run?
The guy also has an areotech Mustang & Cheetah that he has had for a year(that I know of) & he has them "marked down" from about $54.00 to$49.00. Doesn't sound like too good a deal to me. Seems like I hear of them for that price quite often, or am I mistaken?
Oh yeah, he also has a reloadable At 18mm motor case, for $40.00 & one set of 18mm reloads(can't remember designation) for$12.00, but at that price I don't see much advantage to reloads.
Vance in AK.

#### DPatell

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I bought my Phantom 4000 for $75, also. I still have the launcher and pad in brand new condition. I absolutely love the rocket, I will be one of the few that will suggest you build it. Replace the motor mount with some LOC 29mm tubing and it will fly beautifully on almost all 29mm G's and H's. So far I have put mine up on a G35W, G64W, H180W, H210R, H238T. All beautiful flights, looking forward to an H268R or I200W next flying season. Snatch up pretty much everything he has. The 18mm's are pretty much extinct. You'll like them, believe me$49 for those rockets is not too good of a deal...but they are good rockets. TRF loves the Mustang