Estes Der Red Max Discontinued

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  1. Dec 24, 2019 #1

    Initiator001

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    It looks like Estes has discontinued the Der Red Max kit (#0652).

    It is no longer on the Estes website and a search turns up the kit parachute and other products using 'Red' or 'Max' in their name.

    Perhaps it will return at a future date.
     
  2. Dec 25, 2019 #2

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    Yeah, this was discussed on one of the FB pages - couple of comments bordering on kinda snarky and/or less than complimentary towards Estes. DRM has been on hiatus then returned to the catalog before so my guess is the current sales levels don’t hit Estes desired target numbers. Fortunately, if the retail pipeline goes dry before DRM returns, it’s a simple rocket to clone - decals from Stickershock or Tango Papa, chute from Estes, nose cone from eRockets or Balsa Machining takes care of the unique parts, body tube and fins are straightforward bits.

    Mine was one of the first of my BAR kits that turned out nicer than anything I built as a kid. It’s been a super flyer but is pretty much a shelf queen these days - I’m tempted to buy another kit and get a set of Mark’s alternate decals (I like the pirate style Black Max) from Stickershock so I have one in active service.
     
  3. Dec 25, 2019 #3

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    I'd definitely pick up a couple of kits if you would be sad to not have one. They're cheap.
     
  4. Dec 25, 2019 #4

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    Cheap and great flyers!

    I have one, its been through a couple of busted fins, but I bet I have at least a dozen flights on it.
     
  5. Dec 25, 2019 #5

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    My kids always fly ours. I picked up a spare because they'd be sad if a tree ate it.
     
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    Picked up a couple of them at HL last week. Either way it's an easy clone and I prefer StickShocks vinyl to the water slide stuff any day.
     
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    Somewhere on the Internet - sorry, I know this sounds lame but I can’t recall where I read it - a poster stated they’d spoken with Estes customer service to confirm DRM is only temporarily out of the line up. So the Max will return!
     
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    I was talking to them as well and same thing - it should say out of stock but somebody hit the wrong button.
     
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    So, the Der Red Max is dead... Long live the Der Red Max. And the Mega.
     
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    Mega and mini still OOP but at least you can get mega clones and stickershock decals.
     
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  12. Dec 29, 2019 #12

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    I tried to buy some from Fry's for the nosecones alone; although I could add them to the cart, there was no pickup/shipment available.
     
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    Dang. Store pickup shows the Milton, GA store is ready for pickup today.
    When I put my zip in for shipping it says "Order now to ship Monday".
    But when I try completing the order I get an error message. I thought it was because I'm outside of CONUS.
    Anybody successfully get an order through?
     
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    I did get it to work, I got all the way to the end, that's when they disclosed the delivery charge of 49 bucks. Thieves. Must be by private jet.
     
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    There are several on Ebay. I got one for $15.05 with free shipping.
     
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    Even though I didn't complete the order they sent me a welcoming
    e mail including a customer service #. When I called it it was not a good #.
     
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    OK, then...……..
    NEVER MIND!:facepalm:
     
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    I had this funny thought.... Maybe the Der red is off the Estes main roster to be reincarnated and make a come back as a Hobby Lobby exclusive. Anyway I picked up a kit for a future build.
     
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    I was hoping to score some cheap for the PNC60-AH nose cones. Wish I could buy a bag of 5 of them... my favorite cone.
     
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    Big Red Daddy on the forum has Clone MDRM kits with 29 or 38 mm mounts for 99 bucks. Real MDRM nosecone, etc. so it's as close to the real kit as you get.
     
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    Or if you want to piece together your own, Estes has MDRM nosecones and tubes back in stock, eRockets sells fins and CRs, and stickershock has vinyl decals.
     
  23. Dec 30, 2019 #23

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    I have a mini, have been wanting DRM. I guess my next check I have to find one (or several) and buy them.

    I tried the Fry's thing as well. I could only get 1 at a time to have any shipping/pickup options, and that was out of ILL.
    Since I didn't have any money at the time, I didn't make an account or go further, so I can't say about the shipping charge.
    But that has got to be a mistake in the system I would think. Well packaged to any where in the 48 should only be $7.70.
     
  24. Jan 1, 2020 #24

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    Wrong part number!

    The Estes DRM is kit # 651, not 652. 652 is the Citation Patriot.

    651 is active and available on the Estes website.

    https://estesrockets.com/product/000651-der-red-max/

    That's one of my favorite kits, you had me all freaked out there for a minute. ;)
     
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    Part number or no part number, the red max was gone from the website. It was just a minor error somebody made during the holidays when it went out of stock, and it's fixed now.
     
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    None at my hobby lobby; I swung by there yesterday hoping to score a clearance deal.
     
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    I do wonder if some extras got sold just in case.
     
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    I just purchased one , Amazon.
     
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