# Estes 1969 Saturn V Status

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#### James Harechmak

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It's not the fins I'm concerned about... I'd rather not have the fairings crush on landing. A light rigid foam filling could help prevent tears, dents....
I've foam filled fins on the Maxi Honest John, Maxi V2 and fairings on a couple Saturn V's. The HJ and V2 needed no nose weight and the SV very little. The added gluing surface on the roots and fairings and the added rigidity helps greatly with landing and traveling dings/dents

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AC Supply is now taking orders to ship on 2/1/19 according to their web site.
@#$%-it, I was going to stay put with my 2.5 kits worth of #2157 parts, but I could not resist any longer, and ordered the 50th Anniversary kit. I think the Saturn-V would fly best on an F10, with a gimbaled engine. Or a 32mm G12, or the new Aerotech G8 (17 second burn. SEVENTEEN!) One (1) of my SatV airframes is built with thrust-vectored bps.space motor mount. The trouble with F10 AeroTech motor is that is sold exclu$$ively through Apogee, and thus costs 28.08 + Hazmat. Borderline rip-off pricing. G8 is pre-orderable from BMS for 22.49, and is way more interesting and longer burning, with near-linear ~8.x Newtons of thrust for 10+ seconds (after initial 10+ N burst). That's enough to support ~8/4.45 = ~1.8 lbs of weight. Net of extra thrust-vectoring hardware & electronics weight, my SatV porks up to 700g = ~1.5 lbs. Just about perfect match for ~300 ft of super slow-mo flight on a G8 (if you believe OR)! F10 would actually lift the same 700g a bit higher off the pad, due to larger earlier burst of 20+ N thrust, then settle into the same 8-9 N steady-state thrust pattern for ~4 seconds. Shorter flight, more expensive. Less likely to melt/burn things. It's not that hard to do these days, with an Eagle Tree Guardian (R/C plane autopilot) or best yet Joe Barnard's (BPS Space) guidance system. Imagine the Estes Saturn-V flying as shown in this animated GIF link (the actual animated GIF will not display on TRF). I'd like to do a Gimbaled Saturn-V myself, but I have a different special project I want to get done this year. It's not that hard to do. In the works. Video will be shared when everything works, and when the weather finally cooperates here in NE. a Last edited: #### hutch ##### Well-Known Member My Saturn V from AC Supply cleared customs this morning, and is currently in Toronto. On it's way! Given the speed at which I build, I should get a start right away to be ready for July 16. #### ThirstyBarbarian ##### Well-Known Member I have a tracking number from AC Supply, but the status says “accepted”, and it doesn’t show it has moved to any location. I think it just means the label has been printed, and the number has been issued, but the package has not been picked up yet. #### DeltaVee ##### HV Arcas, AT F67 I have a tracking number from AC Supply, but the status says “accepted”, and it doesn’t show it has moved to any location. I think it just means the label has been printed, and the number has been issued, but the package has not been picked up yet. Mine sat in that state for two days more or less... #### Hawkweber ##### Active Member Mine sat in that state for two days more or less... Mine has been that way since 1/22. They do a bulk scan off a parcel sheet which gets the package into the system but they don't necessarily scan each package. Theoretically it is moving to destination but won't be updated until it gets to final sort or even delivery. That being said, I am annoyed that it is now 6 days for shipping from MO to VA (a 12.5 hour drive) and it hasn't even gotten here. #### BA_Incognito ##### Banned Just got mine today. Good times, good times....... #### georgegassaway ##### Lifetime Supporter TRF Lifetime Supporter One (1) of my SatV airframes is built with thrust-vectored bps.space motor mount. The trouble with F10 AeroTech motor is that is sold exclu$$$ively through Apogee, and thus costs $28.08 + Hazmat. Borderline rip-off pricing. G8 is pre-orderable from BMS for$22.49, and is way more interesting and longer burning, with near-linear ~8.x Newtons of thrust for 10+ seconds (after initial 10+ N burst). That's enough to support ~8/4.45 = ~1.8 lbs of weight. Net of extra thrust-vectoring hardware & electronics weight, my SatV porks up to 700g = ~1.5 lbs. Just about perfect match for ~300 ft of super slow-mo flight on a G8 (if you believe OR)!

F10 would actually lift the same 700g a bit higher off the pad, due to larger earlier burst of 20+ N thrust, then settle into the same 8-9 N steady-state thrust pattern for ~4 seconds. Shorter flight, more expensive. Less likely to melt/burn things.

In the works. Video will be shared when everything works, and when the weather finally cooperates here in NE.

I see what you mean on the pricing, F10 is pretty expensive now, and that makes the G8 a better price deal. And way more impressive for a 17 second burn.

I have not asked, but I wonder if Joe Barnard would offer a 32mm gimbaled mount option. That would allow for using G12 reloads, which is like an F10 that burns a bit longer (8.5 seconds, 93 N-sec). A 2-pack costs $29.69 from BMS, so about$15 a flight. One reason I mention it is that I've made lots and lots of flights using G12's. Does require the special 32mm casing though.
http://www.nar.org/SandT/pdf/Aerotech/G12RC.pdf

#### GlenP

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Finally. I imagine there will be many delays due to weather for shipping this week. If you are not happy with the speed of the free shipping then you may be entitled to a refund of the shipping charges... ;-)

I need to go ahead and place an order for engines.

#### Eljay

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Mine arrived in California today. Sat about half way here for a few days, finally started moving pretty fast after that. USPS definitely has non-priority mail packages as... wait for it... not a priority.

#### Tobor

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I have a tracking number from AC Supply, but the status says “accepted”, and it doesn’t show it has moved to any location. I think it just means the label has been printed, and the number has been issued, but the package has not been picked up yet.
Usually accepted means just that, item/package has been put in the hands of USPS. That static "Accepted" is more likely do to someone at USPS not bothering to do a departure scan after the parcels have been sorted to their respective routes.

#### ThirstyBarbarian

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Usually accepted means just that, item/package has been put in the hands of USPS. That static "Accepted" is more likely do to someone at USPS not bothering to do a departure scan after the parcels have been sorted to their respective routes.

#### hutch

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Arrived today! Thanks to Doug at AC supply for the great service.

#### PhlAsh

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GMail hid my notification from me since last week. Mine should arrive today.

Mine came today.

#### Hawkweber

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Well, it took 9 days to go from Missouri to Virginia (a 12.5 hour trip), but looky-looky!!

FXM

#### OC-Patrick

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...finally got it!

FXM

#### FXM

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Safely arrived here in southeastern, PA. Also has anyone seen the trailer yet? Cannot wait to see in theaters!
APOLLO 11

#### DeltaVee

##### HV Arcas, AT F67
Mine has been two towns over for TWO days now! It was supposed to be delivered yesterday (according to the USPS)... however I ended up getting ZERO mail (even though
"informed delivery" suggested that I'd at least get a couple of letters!). Now it says "delivery date unknown" and there it sits... so who knows... indeed, who knows!

#### PhlAsh

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Mine's apparently on a slow boat from Memphis to Va Beach...

#### Steven

Well, I finally got mine yesterday. After seeing the trailer for the Apollo 11 doc, I'm really anticipating the skies to be filled on July 20th with Saturn V's. The media really needs to be aware of this event and do it's job of covering these miniature lift offs nationwide. Presently, I'm laying down pin striping tape for panel lines on the 1/48th Saturn V. These are going on the systems and auxiliary tunnels found on the first, second and third stages.

#### GlenP

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Would be nice if the AMT Man in Space set of plastic model rockets would get re-released as well. I wish I picked up one of those last time they were around.

#### Araize01

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Well, I finally got mine yesterday. After seeing the trailer for the Apollo 11 doc, I'm really anticipating the skies to be filled on July 20th with Saturn V's. The media really needs to be aware of this event and do it's job of covering these miniature lift offs nationwide. Presently, I'm laying down pin striping tape for panel lines on the 1/48th Saturn V. These are going on the systems and auxiliary tunnels found on the first, second and third stages.
I'm building a 1:45 version. What motor tube are you using.

#### Araize01

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Would be nice if the AMT Man in Space set of plastic model rockets would get re-released as well. I wish I picked up one of those last time they were around.
I picked one up at Hobby lobby about a year ago.

#### Steven

I'm building a 1:45 version. What motor tube are you using.
54 mm.

#### DaveW6DPS

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I ordered from AC Supply on 1/11 and got it yesterday. They are still taking orders.

FXM

#### PhlAsh

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Mine arrived today! Plans are already underway to give it a 29mm MMT

#### DaveW6DPS

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Has anyone made an Open Rocket file for the Saturn V?

#### DeltaVee

##### HV Arcas, AT F67
After spending 2+ days in Shrewsbury MA (some 29 miles away), and USPS saying "in transit from shrewsbury" since the 30th, it arrived today w/o much warning. Verrrrry funny... Hoop de doo.

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