Duplicolor?

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accooper

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OK I live in South Texas, San Antonio to be exact. But where in the world can I find Duplicolor? Walmart doesn't have it, Home Depot doesn't, Nor Lowe's.

Is it better than Krylon?

Or Walmart Paint?

What makes it better?

Andrew In Texas

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rocketguy101

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I found mine at a NAPA auto parts store--read the labels, to look for the recoat anytime, as my store had the laquer based and the "other" kind.

There are several threads here about the paint reformulations and the problems it has caused modelers.

luke strawwalker

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OK I live in South Texas, San Antonio to be exact. But where in the world can I find Duplicolor? Walmart doesn't have it, Home Depot doesn't, Nor Lowe's.

Is it better than Krylon?

Or Walmart Paint?

What makes it better?

Andrew In Texas

Duplicolor is an automotive paint... mainly lacquer, but they DO make SOME stuff in enamel, so watch your compatibility!!!!

You can generally get it at just about any auto-parts store... I know that O'Reilly's carries it, and I think that Auto Zone and Advance does as well.

Don't forget that TSC, Rural King, Big R, and other 'ag stores' often have a pretty good selection of rattle cans in pretty good colors... I'm partial to Allis Chalmer's Orange myself...

Good luck! OL JR

accooper

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OK, Duplicolor seems to be a favorite around here. I have found some place to buy it but lets take it back a few steps.

If You are going to use Duplicolor Colors what primer brand should you use?

If You are going to use Duplicolor Colors what brand base coat should you use?

Should you sand between primer coats? Base coats?

I can build rockets, but painting has never been one of my strengths.

Andrew From Texas

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I use the same brand of primer which is the Duplicolor filler primer. It is high build (for a spray can) dries fast and sands nice.

Sand the primer between coats and before the finish coat. The exception being if you use a primer sealer as a final prime coat.

I don't sand the color coats unless I had a problem. Typically, I spray my base coat (usually white) when it is dry; usually a couple of hours, I mask and spray the next color.

Painting really is not that complicated. It is that there are so many choices in products and the claims on the labels that makes it confusing.

Good Luck

blackjack2564

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I have used it over Rustoleum primer and Painters Touch primer also with great results and no compatibility problems.

MarkII

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Dupli-Color makes wonderful primers. The two types that are most relevant for us are their line of Sandable primers and their Filler Primer - High-Build Formula. Their sandable primer (available in white, black, gray and red oxide) puts on a wonderfully even coat that dries quickly, which can, as the name indicates, then be lightly sanded to enhance the smoothness. The Filler Primer is an essential tool in any rocket builder's paint shop. The filler primer can be used to cover and fill in any scratches or other minor surface defects. (The can's label says that it can be used for defects up to 1/16" deep. I'm sure that is true, but I prefer to use a spot filler like Bondo Spot Putty or Aeropoxy Light Filler to repair anything that is even close to that deep.) Getting all of the defects out and achieving a completely smooth base surface is essential for getting a clean, smooth finish with the color coats or top coat. The filler primer can be repeatedly applied and sanded (it too sands very easily, but beware - it produces vast clouds of dust when it is sanded) until you have the entire surface perfectly even.

Dupli-Color primers are a bit more expensive than other spray primers, so I don't often use them as my sole primer (although you can certainly do that with them). My typical sequence is to fill the spirals in the paper tubes with Bondo Spot Putty or diluted Elmers Carpenters Wood Filler (formerly known as Fill 'N Finish), sand them smooth, and then prime them with a layer of Krylon White or Gray Primer. After that dries, I sand it smooth, which usually removes most of it from the surface. Then I spray on the Dupli-Color primer, sand that smooth if necessary (not always necessary) and then spray on my color coats.

Dupli-Color's color paints are also excellent, high quality spray paints. Again, they are often a bit more expensive than spray paints from Krylon, Rustoleum or Valspar, but the trade-off is that the Dupli-Color covers so well that you often don't need to use as much of it. Unless I am looking for some specific automotive colors, I don't usually go for their Scratch Fix 2in1 paints (in the tiny cans) or the Auto Sprays (small cans) because using them can get quite expensive. Instead, I go for the lacquers (blue labels) or other general purpose colors in the typical spray can sizes. But you can find some really striking colors in the Auto Spray paints, though. Check out EDSCC382 Radiant Fire if you want a really vibrant (but non-fluorescent) red. You can also achieve a really convincing anodized metal look on paper and wood with Dupli-Color's Metalcast line of paints, after first coating them with their Metalcast Ground Coat. Dupli-Color also has many other types of cool "effects" paints, too.

For a combination that will allow you to prime, paint and apply decals all in one day, prime with Dupli-Color Sandable Primer and, a couple of hours after applying your final coat of primer, topcoat with Dupli-Color Acrylic Lacquer spray paint. Both claim to be dry enough to handle within an hour, but I suggest giving them 2 hours each. color topcoats especially can take significant amounts of time to really dry hard (a couple of days or more), but the acrylic lacquer will be totally dry within a couple hours of application. The only problem with the lacquer spray paint is that it is only available in Flat, Semi-Gloss and Gloss Black, Gloss White, Metallic Silver and Clear. But lacquer can be topcoated by just about any other type of paint, so these colors make excellent, quick-drying base colors for subsequent masking. (But remember that lacquer cannot be used to paint over any other type of paint except lacquer. Other types of paint can cover lacquer, but lacquer cannot cover any other type of paint.)

I buy all of my Dupli-Color spray paints at my local Advance Auto store.

DISCLAIMER: I don't work for Dupli-Color (or any other entity at the moment... ); I'm just a plain old customer.

MarkII

Attachment: My FlisKits Just Past Due with blue anodized tube fins and my anodized FlisKits Diminutive Deuce.

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RimfireJim

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I'm partial to Allis Chalmer's Orange myself...
You woulda been in 7th heaven last month at my LHS - on the clearance table there were numerous cans of Krylon Allis-Chalmers orange for $2/can. Was surprised to see them, because it's a color I don't think they normally stocked. Old version of Krylon, too, so I couldn't resist buying one can just on principle My dad has an A-C model B, so I'm partial to the color, too. MarkII Well-Known Member You woulda been in 7th heaven last month at my LHS - on the clearance table there were numerous cans of Krylon Allis-Chalmers orange for$2/can. Was surprised to see them, because it's a color I don't think they normally stocked. Old version of Krylon, too, so I couldn't resist buying one can just on principle
My dad has an A-C model B, so I'm partial to the color, too.
I have a can of Rustoleum Allis-Chalmers Orange (a k a Persian Orange). I used it on my Micro Jayhawk. It looks like it is the perfect color for Jayhawks.

MarkII

luke strawwalker

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OK, Duplicolor seems to be a favorite around here. I have found some place to buy it but lets take it back a few steps.

If You are going to use Duplicolor Colors what primer brand should you use?

If You are going to use Duplicolor Colors what brand base coat should you use?

Should you sand between primer coats? Base coats?

I can build rockets, but painting has never been one of my strengths.

Andrew From Texas
Well, if it were me, I'd probably stick to All Duplicolor stuff. DO MAKE SURE that everything you're getting is either ALL LACQUER or ALL ENAMEL, as I HAVE seen BOTH lacquers and enamel stuff in the Duplicolor brand! Nothing will screw up a paint job faster than trying to put a lacquer coat over an enamel coat!

Now, Duplicolor is higher. Since most of the stuff I've been building in the last year has been semiscalers using standard black/white color schemes and wraps, I haven't had any use for the Duplicolor stuff. What I've been using is mostly Walmart Colorplace 98 cent a can stuff. Works well and the price is right! I don't think I'd try using the Walmart primer under Duplicolor though until I did a paint test and was SURE that it was compatible. If I was really trying to get a killer gloss finish in 'wild colors' not readily available in the cheap paints, I'd go Duplicolor though.

Generally speaking, sticking to a single brand for all your primers/basecoats/topcoats/clearcoats should have the best compatibility and least problems. Just make sure the paint formulations are the same.

Once the primer is slick and glass smooth (it should be by this point-- the rocket will almost look like it's made of gray or red plastic depending on your primer color!) let it dry thoroughly (usually overnight, depending on conditions) and then you're ready for color coats. Usually I just shoot the thing with white and I'm done, but if I'm putting a 'wild color' paint job on the rocket, I usually start with a white base coat and then after that dries appropriately (depending on the paint instructions on the can for the particular paint I'm using-- if in doubt, always follow the instructions!) then I can mask (if necessary) using blue painter's tape and do the top color coats. Sometimes I use clearcoat, and sometimes I use Future floor polish. Usually I use clearcoat on wraps, and future polish on paint, after it's dried a good long while, so the paint has had time to 'cure' and let ALL the solvents out... (which can take a week or two).

Good luck to you and post pics! (you can upload them straight from your hard drive to your posts-- go to 'manage attachments' below the post text window and then 'browse' find your pic on your hard drive (usually 'my pictures' or whatever) and then double-click them to put the filename in the box and click 'upload file'. TRF's upload tool will automatically resize the pics so they'll fit on the website at a good resolution.)

Later and good luck! OL JR

luke strawwalker

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Here's a few pics of some of my stuff done with the methods above...

I think they look okay... (grins)

Take it easy and good luck! OL JR

accooper

OK, if you live in the San Antonio Texas area, 3 Walmart's have a limited supply of Duplicolor paint that is marked down for $3 a can. Not a large selection but some. The 3 Walmarts are The One By The Airport on Jones-Maltsberger The One on Se Loop 410 and Rigsby The One on NW Loop 410 and Military Better run over there and check it out! Hope this is a help to someone. Andrew Huge Blues Well-Known Member I get mine at my local Pep Boys. Have had good results with the High Build Formula. It is pricey at$5+ per can. My Pep Boys is only 3 blocks away
so I gladly pay for the convenience.