- Jan 26, 2010
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I recently purchased a Der Red Max kit, and I just noticed that the decals are different than the old decals. Well, not so much different, as incomplete. What a bummer.
The missing white decals are available at Excelsior Rocketry.I recently purchased a Der Red Max kit, and I just noticed that the decals are different than the old decals. Well, not so much different, as incomplete. What a bummer.
Every time I hear it in connection with the Der Red Max, I keep wondering where the "political correctness" connection comes in. Aside from a few octogenarian former SS officers living in Paraguay, are there any folks around who would actually object to a model rocket kit that satirizes the WWII-era Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe? I never knew that German WWII vets had such a powerful lobby here.Political correctness strikes again?
When they did the new decals, the white decals on the old sheet didn't show up when they were scanned and they just didn't notice them. Evidently the new graphics folks had no history with the classic kit. They were printed in China, so they had a boat load of them to deal with. At least that's what I think I remember them telling us on YORF.Political correctness strikes again?
Cost savings measure (only one color)?
Only the Shadow knows and he isn't talking.
I wonder if any of the fixed decals ever got into the Chinese kits, or if they were just sent out to those of us who asked for them?I double checked the stack of Der Red Max decals that Estes sent out after they fixed them. The large decal sheet has the white foot and hand decal, and the small decal sheet has the white X882 decal for the nose. If you don't have the correct decal, contact Estes for the new versions. There are also registration color issues with the old set of decals that came out with the first kits.
The newer kits do not have the X882 decals any longer (only the MDRM does). As for the white hand and foot decals iirc they are very hard to see against the backing paper.Now the thread is even older but I need some input. I recently got a Red Max kit and I'm ready to put the decals on... but the set with the kit doesn't have the 8XX2 or white hand/foot decals. Did I get a kit that has just been on the self for ages or is this what it is like now? If I ask Estes to send a new set will it include them?
I don't think the hand and foot are there. The white of the skull is easy to differentiate from the backing but even with bright light and magnification I can't see the hand and foot. Where should they be?The newer kits do not have the X882 decals any longer (only the MDRM does). As for the white hand and foot decals iirc they are very hard to see against the backing paper.
Maybe they were not in my kit as well, I sent an email to Estes customer service and they sent me what the gentleman said was proobably the last sheet of old DRM decals they had in a box of loose decal sheets. At this point Stickershock23 vinyl might be the only source or Tango Papa Decals may make some waterslides.I don't think the hand and foot are there. The white of the skull is easy to differentiate from the backing but even with bright light and magnification I can't see the hand and foot. Where should they be?
Dear Estes Rockets
You fixed the Citation Patriot's decals (to get the logo right on the fin decals). Thanks for that.
I love the Der Red Max, in all it's variations (Citation Red Max (KM-2), Der Big Red Max (1403), Mega Der Red Max (9705), and the Mini Max (2445)). But in the current release, there's a few things missing. The white nosecone X882 decal, and the white "NICHT STOMPIN" and "MITT GRABBEN" decals.
I'm not the only person who's noticed this. There are several threads on both TRF and YORF, and a number of times this has been posted on FB.
Isn't it time to bring those decals back too? Perhaps you could even sell sets of just those decals (for all sized variants) for those of us who want to "fix" our kits that are missing them.
Thanks... I've used StickerShock in the past... What I'm hoping to do is to get Estes to step up and restore those decals to the kits by default.
I'd like that as well and ensure they're good quality. If you want to start a "Movement" you could post your Point of Contact at Estes and we could try a Mass Mailing... just a thought.Thanks... I've used StickerShock in the past... What I'm hoping to do is to get Estes to step up and restore those decals to the kits by default.
Thanks for the update John!!!Jim,
I just checked on the decal and the issue was fixed back in 2012. There are several possible things going on here. It’s possible China printed a TON of the old decals and decided to keep using them longer then they should have. People might still be purchasing older kits containing the old decal. Also the decal that goes on the nose cone and the two that go on the body tube are printed in all white, and are on an all-white background. There was suppose to be a black outline around these three decals but I don’t believe it was used. It’s possible the three decals in question are on the sheet but you simply can’t see them. In any case we are checking with China to see what artwork they are currently using for the decals, and NO we won’t be creating a separate decal sheet with these three missing decals.
I suspect it’s the privacy settings related to me because I cannot see the post on the NAR group also. I’ll try friending you.Thanks for that... Perhaps you could do a pubic message on the FB page, and I'll "like" it... I can't figure out why FB did that to me, and I'm really tired right now.