Der Red Max decals different

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  1. Mar 23, 2010 #1

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    I recently purchased a Der Red Max kit, and I just noticed that the decals are different than the old decals. Well, not so much different, as incomplete. What a bummer.

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    The missing white decals are available at Excelsior Rocketry.

    If you take a look at the archives, we were all happy when the kit came out, but disappointed to find missing bits of decal, and poor decal quality. Estes has now taken care of the decal quality, but it seems they aren't going to bother adding the missing white decals. IIRC the supplemental sheet is about 50 cents.
     
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    Political correctness strikes again?

    Cost savings measure (only one color)?

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    When Estes fixed the quality of their decals, I thought they added the white ones back in. You can call or write Estes and they will send out the correct decal free.,,,,Heck they sent me a stack of Der Red Max decals when they fixed them.
     
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    Every time I hear it in connection with the Der Red Max, I keep wondering where the "political correctness" connection comes in. Aside from a few octogenarian former SS officers living in Paraguay, are there any folks around who would actually object to a model rocket kit that satirizes the WWII-era Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe? I never knew that German WWII vets had such a powerful lobby here.

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    Wow! I never saw one of the new decal sheets! They cut a lot of stuff out! I'll bet the instructions are "corrected" as well. What a shame:(.
     
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    When they did the new decals, the white decals on the old sheet didn't show up when they were scanned and they just didn't notice them. Evidently the new graphics folks had no history with the classic kit. They were printed in China, so they had a boat load of them to deal with. At least that's what I think I remember them telling us on YORF.

    All that's missing is the large "tail number" for the nosecone (8XX2), a white hand with "mitt grabben" written under it, and a white foot with "foot stompin" under it. That's from memory so I'm probably not exactly right on the spelling. It has nothing to do with political correctness because the same hand and foot decals printed in black are still in the new kit. The plain jane instruction sheet might be a different story.
     
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    I double checked the stack of Der Red Max decals that Estes sent out after they fixed them. The large decal sheet has the white foot and hand decal, and the small decal sheet has the white X882 decal for the nose. If you don't have the correct decal, contact Estes for the new versions. There are also registration color issues with the old set of decals that came out with the first kits.
     
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    I wonder if any of the fixed decals ever got into the Chinese kits, or if they were just sent out to those of us who asked for them?
     
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    I bought a DRM kit last week and opened it last night. The decal sheets (there are 2) are complete, and everything says "made in China" so I guess the product improvement process is working... :confused2:

    I also looked at the decal sheet from the Mini Max that I bought as well. There are a couple of decals on the sheet that don't have any printing on them (you can see where the transfer film is laid down, but no ink). They look like the shape of the white foot and hand decals... might have to cale the "new" Estes folks and see what they say.

    p.s. tried to take pics, but couldn't get the lighting right to see anything :mad:
     
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    Wow, it really works- just ask Estes, this was the email response I received this morning to my inquiry yesterday for a corrected set of Der Red Max decals-
    You guys rock, thanks for the suggestion-

    Hello,

    We will send you a replacement set of decals, please allow 10 days for shipping.

    Thank you,
    Christine
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Estes Rocket [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com]
    Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 3:04 PM
    To: WEBCS
    Subject: - From EstesRockets.com
     
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    I know this is an old thread...okay, very old...but does anyone have an extra set (or two) of Der Red Max decals?

    I'm going to kitbash an Expedition kit to an "Honest Max" an will need some decals.

    Thanks,

    Jon
     

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