Winston
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My state's data on cases, hospitalizations, and deaths doesn't support the following. For now... Exactly the opposite, actually. Most recent data: two days of zero deaths followed by one day with 2 deaths statewide. No spike in hospitalizations from the 4th of July; actually a significant drop. However, 95.5% of new cases are the Delta variant.
VAX PANIC Vaccinated people may be JUST as contagious as Delta variant is spreading faster than common cold, leaked CDC doc warns
Jul 29 2021
www.the-sun.com
Vaccinated people may be just as contagious as the unvaccinated as the deadly Delta Covid variant is spreading faster than the common cold, a leaked CDC document has warned.
A worrying slide presentation shared internally by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is causing the nation’s top public health authority to change tact as the raging Delta mutation spreads - sending cases and hospitalizations soaring.
'BREAKTHROUGH' CASES
The new research may have touched on a widespread outbreak in Provincetown, Massachusetts, where after Independence Day, there have been 882 Covid-19 cases counted.
Nearly three-quarters of the sick ["sick" or just positive cases?; most likely the latter - W] were fully vaccinated, the Times reported.
CDC document warns Delta variant appears to spread as easily as chickenpox and cause more severe infection - July 30, 2021
www.cnn.com
Note that while the growing national case increases may support that title, I suspect their claim of "more severe infection" comes from the apparently much greater viral load of the Delta-infected rather than the symptoms since the vaccines are highly effective in suppressing symptoms.
However, that's what is probably leading to the higher viral loads because the illness has progressed much further before people even realize they're infected and get tested. And THERE is EXACTLY the problem with vaccines that suppress symptoms, but do not prevent INFECTIONS - the vaccinated become unknowing super-spreaders.
Behind the Masks, a Mystery: How Often Do the Vaccinated Spread the Virus?
The C.D.C.’s new masking advice was based in part on data showing that the virus can thrive in the airways of vaccinated people. The findings are expected on Friday.
www.nytimes.com
New research showed that vaccinated people infected with the Delta variant carry tremendous amounts of the virus in the nose and throat, she said in an email responding to questions from The New York Times.
The finding contradicts what scientists had observed in vaccinated people infected with previous versions of the virus, who mostly seemed incapable of infecting others.
That conclusion dealt Americans a heavy blow: People with so-called breakthrough infections — cases that occur despite full vaccination — of the Delta variant may be just as contagious as unvaccinated people, even if they have no symptoms.
From Wikipedia, the incredibly high R0 of chickenpox:
Chickenpox (varicella) - Aerosol transmission - R0 = 10–12 - Herd Immunity Threshold = 90–92%
On just the vaccine breakthrough topic, this was all probably suspected back in May when the CDC changed its breakthrough reporting policy:
COVID-19 Vaccine Breakthrough Case Investigation and Reporting
www.cdc.gov
"As of May 1, 2021, CDC transitioned from monitoring all reported vaccine breakthrough cases to focus on identifying and investigating only hospitalized or fatal cases due to any cause. This shift will help maximize the quality of the data collected on cases of greatest clinical and public health importance."
"Maximize the quality of the data"? As if only the hospitalized and dead couldn't be selected from the overall data using filters just like the ones already available in their VAERS database? Nah, the intent was to suppress reporting of vaccine breakthroughs.
But breakthrough cases still manage to hit the national news anyway like the six infected, fully vaccinated in the group of Texas Democrat legislators who flew to DC, managed to infect at least two fully vaccinated White House staff, and caused VP Harris who met with them to make a "routine" visit to Walter Reed hospital, probably for a PCR test. There's also the nine fully vaccinated but infected major league baseball players from May and the three fully vaccinated but infected ones who delayed the All Star game, just off the top of my head.
VAX PANIC Vaccinated people may be JUST as contagious as Delta variant is spreading faster than common cold, leaked CDC doc warns
Jul 29 2021
Immunized people may be JUST as contagious as Delta spreads faster than the cold
VACCINATED people may be just as contagious as the unvaccinated as the deadly Delta Covid variant is spreading faster than the common cold, a leaked CDC document has warned. A worrying slide presen…
www.the-sun.com
Vaccinated people may be just as contagious as the unvaccinated as the deadly Delta Covid variant is spreading faster than the common cold, a leaked CDC document has warned.
A worrying slide presentation shared internally by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is causing the nation’s top public health authority to change tact as the raging Delta mutation spreads - sending cases and hospitalizations soaring.
'BREAKTHROUGH' CASES
The new research may have touched on a widespread outbreak in Provincetown, Massachusetts, where after Independence Day, there have been 882 Covid-19 cases counted.
Nearly three-quarters of the sick ["sick" or just positive cases?; most likely the latter - W] were fully vaccinated, the Times reported.
CDC document warns Delta variant appears to spread as easily as chickenpox and cause more severe infection - July 30, 2021
CDC document warns Delta variant appears to spread as easily as chickenpox and cause more severe infection
The Delta coronavirus variant surging across the US appears to cause more severe illness and spread as easily as chickenpox, according to an internal CDC document.
www.cnn.com
Note that while the growing national case increases may support that title, I suspect their claim of "more severe infection" comes from the apparently much greater viral load of the Delta-infected rather than the symptoms since the vaccines are highly effective in suppressing symptoms.
However, that's what is probably leading to the higher viral loads because the illness has progressed much further before people even realize they're infected and get tested. And THERE is EXACTLY the problem with vaccines that suppress symptoms, but do not prevent INFECTIONS - the vaccinated become unknowing super-spreaders.
Behind the Masks, a Mystery: How Often Do the Vaccinated Spread the Virus?
The C.D.C.’s new masking advice was based in part on data showing that the virus can thrive in the airways of vaccinated people. The findings are expected on Friday.
Behind the Masks, a Mystery: How Often Do the Vaccinated Spread the Virus? (Published 2021)
The C.D.C.’s new masking advice was based in part on data showing that the virus can thrive in the airways of vaccinated people. The findings are expected on Friday.
New research showed that vaccinated people infected with the Delta variant carry tremendous amounts of the virus in the nose and throat, she said in an email responding to questions from The New York Times.
The finding contradicts what scientists had observed in vaccinated people infected with previous versions of the virus, who mostly seemed incapable of infecting others.
That conclusion dealt Americans a heavy blow: People with so-called breakthrough infections — cases that occur despite full vaccination — of the Delta variant may be just as contagious as unvaccinated people, even if they have no symptoms.
From Wikipedia, the incredibly high R0 of chickenpox:
Chickenpox (varicella) - Aerosol transmission - R0 = 10–12 - Herd Immunity Threshold = 90–92%
On just the vaccine breakthrough topic, this was all probably suspected back in May when the CDC changed its breakthrough reporting policy:
COVID-19 Vaccine Breakthrough Case Investigation and Reporting
COVID-19 Breakthrough Case Investigations and Reporting | CDC
Information and resources to help public health departments and laboratories investigate and report COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough cases.
"As of May 1, 2021, CDC transitioned from monitoring all reported vaccine breakthrough cases to focus on identifying and investigating only hospitalized or fatal cases due to any cause. This shift will help maximize the quality of the data collected on cases of greatest clinical and public health importance."
"Maximize the quality of the data"? As if only the hospitalized and dead couldn't be selected from the overall data using filters just like the ones already available in their VAERS database? Nah, the intent was to suppress reporting of vaccine breakthroughs.
But breakthrough cases still manage to hit the national news anyway like the six infected, fully vaccinated in the group of Texas Democrat legislators who flew to DC, managed to infect at least two fully vaccinated White House staff, and caused VP Harris who met with them to make a "routine" visit to Walter Reed hospital, probably for a PCR test. There's also the nine fully vaccinated but infected major league baseball players from May and the three fully vaccinated but infected ones who delayed the All Star game, just off the top of my head.
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