Decals and more decals- Black Brant II and Bullpup

[bjphoenix]

I finished 2 builds- Estes Black Brant II and Estes Bullpup. It took several days to get all of the decals on. They're not perfect but will be OK for a flying model. On the BB there are touchups that I might be able to do with a black Sharpie pen. Both of these kits were very old, rescued from our club stash. The decals for the BB were pretty well behaved but the decals for the BP were not- some of them had to soak for 2 or 3 minutes before they let go while others would release faster. Some of the long thin ones would release unevenly and tore while I was working with them. I haven't done rockets with a lot of decals in a long time and I'm not in the habit of clearcoating over them but maybe these would require it.

 

[bad_idea]

Great work!

 

[bobby_hamill]

Nice Black Brant 2 !!
I have the NASA Video when the real Black Brant 2 was launched that Estes made
that model from . The original rocket broke up due to wind shear at high altitude

Link Below

 

[kjhambrick]

Wow !

It is interesting to see the three-finned BB II do a very slow, counterclockwise 2/3 roll (*) that seems to dampen out soon after leaving the rail.

Does anyone know if there a post-launch written report for that flight ?

Thanks.

-- kjh

(*) - CCW roll, Right Hand Rule-wise

 

[ShadowSpire48]

I finished 2 builds- Estes Black Brant II and Estes Bullpup. It took several days to get all of the decals on. They're not perfect but will be OK for a flying model. On the BB there are touchups that I might be able to do with a black Sharpie pen. Both of these kits were very old, rescued from our club stash. The decals for the BB were pretty well behaved but the decals for the BP were not- some of them had to soak for 2 or 3 minutes before they let go while others would release faster. Some of the long thin ones would release unevenly and tore while I was working with them. I haven't done rockets with a lot of decals in a long time and I'm not in the habit of clearcoating over them but maybe these would require it.
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If I want a kit that I know has waterslides (mainly Estes), I immediately go to Stickershock to see if he by chance has them in the original size and if not, I wont get it. I’m glad he has original sized decals in vinyl for the Black Star Voyager. I did Estes waterslides a long time ago and could never get them to work properly. Tried them recently again on their Great Goblin and they were crap again. No more for me.

 

[SolarYellow]

Wow !

It is interesting to see the three-finned BB II do a very slow, counterclockwise 2/3 roll (*) that seems to dampen out soon after leaving the rail.

Does anyone know if there a post-launch written report for that flight ?

Thanks.

-- kjh

(*) - CCW roll, Right Hand Rule-wise

Don't know of a report, but here is some more discussion and pics, in case you hadn't found it.

https://www.rocketryforum.com/threads/black-brant-ii.11362/#post-2054562

 

[bobby_hamill]

in the video at 1 minute 15 seconds is when the break up occurs

 

[kjhambrick]

Don't know of a report, but here is some more discussion and pics, in case you hadn't found it.

https://www.rocketryforum.com/threads/black-brant-ii.11362/#post-2054562

Interesting annotaton in @bobby_hamill's pics:


I wonder what the motor unburnt and motor burnt annotations mean ?

-- kjh

 

[bobby_hamill]

in one of the video angles of the launch you can see a NASA employee step out a door and watch the launch.
He is circled in red at the door

 

[kjhambrick]

in the video at 1 minute 15 seconds is when the break up occurs

Yes, I saw it break up at about 1:15 and I also saw 'something' in the trajectory at about 1:05 ...

-- kjh

 

[bobby_hamill]

Interesting annotaton in @bobby_hamill's pics:
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I wonder what the motor unburnt and motor burnt annotations mean ?

-- kjh

it means unburnt before flight = full of propellant
Burnt means after flight = no propellant

 

[bobby_hamill]

Yes, I saw it break up at about 1:15 and I also saw 'something' in the trajectory at about 1:05 ...

-- kjh

probably a fin breaking off ?

 

[bobby_hamill]

a few of the black Brand 2 vehicles were 3 fin version then they switch over to the 4 fin version so the black Brant
could be launched from the enclosed launch pad

 

[bobby_hamill]

Did you know that a Black Brant rocket Launch almost started a nuclear War with the Russians ?

 

[SolarYellow]

Moved my reply back to the thread where the drawings were posted:
https://www.rocketryforum.com/threads/black-brant-ii.11362/post-2674929

 

[bobby_hamill]

@ SolarYellow

I have some Black Brant files to send to you the largest one is 6.5 megs in size
How can I sen them to you ?

 

[ShadowSpire48]

@ SolarYellow

I have some Black Brant files to send to you the largest one is 6.5 megs in size
How can I sen them to you ?

Dropbox them and post the link here

 

[Art Upton]

Did you know that a Black Brant rocket Launch almost started a nuclear War with the Russians ?

The Russian guy running the 'early detection' systems was not certain he could trust them.
Due to that we are still alive

 

[bobby_hamill]

Dropbox them and post the link here

I think they went through in the pm I sent to him

 

[SolarYellow]

Did you know that a Black Brant rocket Launch almost started a nuclear War with the Russians ?

Yes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_rocket_incident

 

[JPalmer621]

Good looking rockets