Anxiously awaiting Q jet arrival

Discussion in 'Propulsion' started by Mailman, Sep 21, 2018.

  1. Sep 21, 2018 #1

    Mailman

    Mailman

    Mailman

    Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2018
    Messages:
    22
    Likes Received:
    7
    Has anyone had their c-12’s or d-16’s show up yet?
     
  2. Sep 21, 2018 #2

    shreadvector

    shreadvector

    shreadvector

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2009
    Messages:
    8,565
    Likes Received:
    11
    I used a D16 at NARAM-60. Very nice. Smooth fit. Flew absurdly high in an Estes Make-It Take-It.
     
  3. Sep 21, 2018 #3

    kuririn

    kuririn

    kuririn

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2016
    Messages:
    743
    Likes Received:
    79
    From the Quest website:

    NOTICE: WE NOW ANTICIPATE THE Q-JET C12 AND D16 PREORDERS TO BEGIN SHIPPING SHORTLY AFTER LABOR DAY WEEKEND. IT WILL TAKE SEVERAL DAYS TO 2 WEEKS TO FILL ALL THE PREORDERS ONCE SHIPPING BEGINS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE!

    Usually RCS/Quest sends out a shipping notice when it goes out. Haven't received a notice for my pre-order yet.
     
  4. Sep 21, 2018 #4

    Cody Webster

    Cody Webster

    Cody Webster

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2016
    Messages:
    213
    Likes Received:
    13
    Gender:
    Male
    Looking forward to these motors. Any one heard about E's or F's?
     
  5. Sep 21, 2018 #5

    shreadvector

    shreadvector

    shreadvector

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2009
    Messages:
    8,565
    Likes Received:
    11
    No.

    Quest and Aerotech are merged. Quest has 18mm Q-jets.

    Aerotech has E's and F's in 24 and 29mm (Single use and RMS).

    Now, a good question would be: I wonder if they will ever make any 24mm E and F Q-jet motors in the future (assuming they can sell enough of the 18mm Q-Jets to make a profit).

    Not sure if the ceramic nozzle would scale up to 24mm and Aerotech already has some great single use 24mm motors (E20, F44, F32, etc.)
     
  6. Sep 21, 2018 #6

    RoyAtl

    RoyAtl

    RoyAtl

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2009
    Messages:
    1,340
    Likes Received:
    5

    Don't know if you've noticed, but the packaging for the C & D Q-jets says nothing about Quest, and only has Aerotech. Don't know if the smaller motors' packaging has changed.
     
  7. Sep 21, 2018 #7

    shreadvector

    shreadvector

    shreadvector

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2009
    Messages:
    8,565
    Likes Received:
    11
    That was interesting. Probably because of the propellant regulatory paperwork being owned by RCS/Aerotech and not the Quest entity. So Quest may make the kits but Aerotech makes the composite motors.
     
  8. Sep 21, 2018 #8

    RoyAtl

    RoyAtl

    RoyAtl

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2009
    Messages:
    1,340
    Likes Received:
    5
    I've got a feeling it is more marketing driven, but Gary wouldn't give me any more hints about it.
     
    ATGM likes this.
  9. Sep 21, 2018 #9

    shreadvector

    shreadvector

    shreadvector

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2009
    Messages:
    8,565
    Likes Received:
    11
    Maybe Dane knows.....
     
  10. Sep 21, 2018 #10

    kuririn

    kuririn

    kuririn

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2016
    Messages:
    743
    Likes Received:
    79
    Update: Just received a shipping notice from RCS like, two minutes ago. So all my draggy, underpowered 18mm birds might have a new life. Woohoo!
     
    ATGM and Mailman like this.
  11. Sep 22, 2018 #11

    pyrobob

    pyrobob

    pyrobob

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2013
    Messages:
    2,300
    Likes Received:
    2
    Interesting observation ;).
     
  12. Sep 22, 2018 #12

    RoyAtl

    RoyAtl

    RoyAtl

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2009
    Messages:
    1,340
    Likes Received:
    5
    The maxim is that you need to have same-branded motors to get your products into some retail channels. i.e why some hobby stores wouldn't carry Custom or other lines. This flies slightly against that, though the Q-glyph in Q-Jets is the same as the one in the Quest logo, so maybe that's good enough for the connection?
     
  13. Sep 22, 2018 #13

    Mailman

    Mailman

    Mailman

    Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2018
    Messages:
    22
    Likes Received:
    7
    Got my shipping notice email at 12:32 last night!!! Now it’s time to buckle down and finish my bt-20 alien interceptor
     
  14. Sep 23, 2018 #14

    Initiator001

    Initiator001

    Initiator001

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2009
    Messages:
    2,683
    Likes Received:
    1
    I also received a shipping notice about my Q-Jet order on Friday.

    I flew a C12 and a D16 in Quest Kwik-Kit rockets at NARAM-60. All I can say is "WOW!"
     
  15. Sep 24, 2018 #15

    Nytrunner

    Nytrunner

    Nytrunner

    Master of Rivets

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2016
    Messages:
    2,721
    Likes Received:
    135
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Huntsville AL
    Am I the only one amused by the fact that "mailman" is awaiting a package delivery?
     
    Tyler P, grouch and Mailman like this.
  16. Sep 24, 2018 #16

    kuririn

    kuririn

    kuririn

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2016
    Messages:
    743
    Likes Received:
    79
    To be fair, I get excited about some of my parcels . Even print out the tracking number and ETA. More "anticipating" rather than "awaiting".
     
  17. Sep 24, 2018 #17

    Mailman

    Mailman

    Mailman

    Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2018
    Messages:
    22
    Likes Received:
    7
    Just cause I’m out all day delivering bills and junk doesn’t mean my rockets are on the fast track to my front porch. Haha
     
    Nytrunner likes this.
  18. Oct 1, 2018 #18

    ATGM

    ATGM

    ATGM

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2015
    Messages:
    585
    Likes Received:
    11
    Hey everyone, just wanted to drop in and provide you all an update on the Q-Jets. All Q-jet orders have been shipped out as of today so if you have not received them yet they should be there sometime this week and/or into next week. With USPS you just never know sometimes, that is one downside to shipping Parcel Post. Their tracking service leaves something to be desired as well, we usually only see the initial scan and the final scan when it is delivered.
     
    Mailman likes this.
  19. Oct 1, 2018 #19

    kuririn

    kuririn

    kuririn

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2016
    Messages:
    743
    Likes Received:
    79
    Someone posted that they received their Cs and there was a note that the Ds would ship shortly thereafter. That explains the notice I got today. A second shipping notice on my order. So I guess it's coming in two packages.
     
  20. Oct 6, 2018 #20

    dpower

    dpower

    dpower

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2009
    Messages:
    1,018
    Likes Received:
    4
    I received my C12/D16 packs a few days ago (I preordered the first day). First flights today!
     
  21. Oct 11, 2018 #21

    Eljay

    Eljay

    Eljay

    Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2018
    Messages:
    20
    Likes Received:
    1
    How'd it go?

    I'm not sure I'm going to be buying any more QJets after some customer service issues but I got some C's and D's in as well as some old stock B's I already had (sigh, these are the ones that don't fit) and it would be good to get some sense of how they're actually performing if we ever get a local launch that isn't cancelled (double sigh).
     
  22. Oct 14, 2018 #22

    dpower

    dpower

    dpower

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2009
    Messages:
    1,018
    Likes Received:
    4
    I flew an old, all-plastic 18mm X-Wing on both a C12-4 and D16-4 last weekend, they got the model up to a stable speed quickly. This is one of those models that called out the C5-3 as the only recommended motor. They're both very good motors for this bird. Flew an E2X Estes Spirit (plastic fin can) on a D16-6, and it flew straight and high - no issues with the motor heating up the fin can too much. The D16 has only marginally more impluse than the C12, so the flyer experience wasn't much different. They light *very* quick with the supplied starters. The little red tube used to hold the starter is a little tricky to use, and easy to lose, but small twigs work well when that happens. :rolleyes:
     
    Eljay likes this.
  23. Oct 18, 2018 at 11:25 PM #23

    Tyler P

    Tyler P

    Tyler P

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    78
    Likes Received:
    21
    Gender:
    Male
    I'm waiting for these to be cleared in Canada. Very interested to see how they work in a couple of my 18mm rockets.
     
  24. Oct 20, 2018 at 5:12 AM #24

    Eljay

    Eljay

    Eljay

    Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2018
    Messages:
    20
    Likes Received:
    1
    So I got a chance to try a D16 in a Big Bertha today and you know, it really was pretty cool. The igniters are a little fragile and it took me a couple of tries to figure out what the heck I was supposed to do with the little red thing but I got it to work eventually and now I know the trick (get the igniter all the way up without pushing it too hard, then jam the red thing in alongside to keep it up). I can definitely see keeping a little stash of these for traditional 18mm rockets that feel a little underpowered on a C6.
     
  25. Oct 20, 2018 at 6:25 AM #25

    BEC

    BEC

    BEC

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2009
    Messages:
    2,280
    Likes Received:
    7
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Auburn, WA
    Flew a C12-6 and a D16-8 in a Nova Payloader today. The C12 was especially satisfying as it took the model a goodly bit higher than I get with an Estes C6-5 (925 feet on the C12 vs. 700+/-50 feet on Estes C6s). The D16 didn't take it much higher (another 120 feet) but man did that sucker get up and go! The AltimeterThree reported a peak speed on the D of 280 mph!

    I will be wanting more of these.

    Putting one in a Big Bertha (maybe D16-6) would likely be quite fun. Not as much fun as an Aerotech D10-7, but quite a bit of fun.
     
  26. Oct 20, 2018 at 6:40 AM #26

    Eljay

    Eljay

    Eljay

    Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2018
    Messages:
    20
    Likes Received:
    1
    Yeah, I used a D16-6. It's definitely not a "full" D but it's so zippy you don't really care.
     
  27. Oct 20, 2018 at 7:10 AM #27

    BEC

    BEC

    BEC

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2009
    Messages:
    2,280
    Likes Received:
    7
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Auburn, WA
    Zippy indeed. Today's D16 flight was the fastest I've ever seen a Nova Payloader get up and go - and I've flown them on probably 125 flights including some with Aerotech D10s.

    That said the AltimeterThree aboard reported higher peak acceleration - 22Gs - on the C12 flight. The acceleration graph showed a more sharply progressive burn on the C12 vs. the D16.

    A D16 might be just the perfect motor for a BB (or a Citation Patriot) on my club field....without needing to also carry a Chute Release at least.
     

Share This Page