Alien Atmospheric probe V2 build thread

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I recently redesigned my old Alien Atmospheric probe, and wanted to post pics of the build process.

The previous version had stability issues - the main fins needed to be wider, and the strakes seemed to introduce even more instability (particularly since they were so long it was really difficult to get the glued on straight).

I redesigned the rocket, keeping the older nosecone assembly, but upping the main body tube from a BT-55 to a BT-60. I cut down an BT-60 nosecone to make a transition to insert the old BT-55 nosecone into. I also used an BT-60 plastic tailcone. I also upped the rear fins width and went from 3 fins to 4, and added an integral semi-strake attached to the main fin.

Old rocket:
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New version:

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I built the engine assembly first, using an BT-60 plastic transition off of an Estes nosecone. I had to widen up the slot for the engine hook, as it appeared to be set up for the smaller 18/24mm engine hook.
Otherwise, it is of a fairly standard construction, except that the rear of the engine tube buts up against a lip on the inside of the transition smaller end.
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Engine mount with transition:
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Nosecone I cut down to make the forward transition between the BT-60 main body tube and the BT-55 nosecone assembly:

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Transition with old nosecone assembly alongside (I won't be reusing the old nosecone as it has noseweight epoxied in it that the new design does not need, so ordered a replacement nosecone from Sirius Rocketry).
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Transition with nosecone in place to show how it looks:

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4 fins and front strakes that will attach to the front of the fins, nothing special. 1/8" balsa here. I won't be able to attach these yet, as I have to epoxy the engine mount in place first, and the weather here has not been cooperative. The rear of the fins taper down to match the plastic tailcone.
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More pics as construction proceeds.
 

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Got the 4 fins and strakes put on, just need fillets. The fins were interesting because a portion of the rear had a "bend" downwards over the rear transition cone. I had to use 3 drops of superglue gel (1 on each end and one at the joint between the body tube and transition cone), some 5 minute epoxy on the portion of the fin that touched the plastic transition, and carpenters glue on the rest of the balsa. It actually worked well.

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Rocket with the completed and primed nosecone assembly.

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Next up are the launch lugs, then filleting all the fins and strakes, then puttying up the fins, etc.
 

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Got the rocket primed and sanded down with some 800 grit sandpaper, waiting for the primer to outgass enough to actually paint it (probably early next week if the weather cooperates). Looking good so far.
 

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Technically, Ronz, the color is Tamiya "Coral Blue" so I won't be taking any away from you. :)
 

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Got the rocket done, decals added. I reused many of the decals from the previous version, except for the ones that went on the fin edges, etc (wrong shape/angle). Good enough.

Hope to fly it in 2 weeks...DSC02943.JPG
 

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Hope it flys safe! It looks beautiful.

The maiden flight was good, only flying on an C11-3. An C11-5 would have been ideal but I didn't have any. Being as it was windy I angled the launch rod into the wind and ejection was a little early but not enough to be a problem.
 

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The maiden flight was good, only flying on an C11-3. An C11-5 would have been ideal but I didn't have any. Being as it was windy I angled the launch rod into the wind and ejection was a little early but not enough to be a problem.
Nice! I am glad that it flew well. Will there be a v3?
 

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Not sure. I kind of messed up, focusing on looks and larger size, vs optimizing for particular motors.
 

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I love this.

You nailed that middle area between "3F&NC" and spectacularly unique birds like spiders, etc. I really like the fin design and I am interested in trying similar geometries in upcoming experiments of my own.
 

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I love this.

You nailed that middle area between "3F&NC" and spectacularly unique birds like spiders, etc. I really like the fin design and I am interested in trying similar geometries in upcoming experiments of my own.
Thanks. Nice to hear it was an inspiration for someone. :)
 

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