Discussion in 'Propulsion' started by ATGM, May 16, 2015.
Thanks Anthony, we are always looking to improve.
That's odd, 38mm is in stock and has been shipping regularly. 29/180 and 29/240 are in stock now and the others will be in next week. What dealers do or do not have in stock is not necessarily a reflection of what we do or do not have in stock.
That may be true, but since we can't buy hardware direct from Aerotech any more, how does it help us? The one dealer I looked at that has 38mm cases in stock does not sell them with forward and aft closures, which must be purchased separately. Those closures are all sold out for the dealers I looked at. So if a person is looking to replace an entire case do to loss, or just trying to get started in the rms hobby, then what?
Okay if Karl has your info you are just waiting for the
So they only offer the casing and not the motor? Or they only have some of the parts in stock? Just trying to see what we can do to make it better.
I'm going to copy the relevant portions of this thread and send it to one of these suppliers who have most of their hardware listed as out of stock, maybe get the vendors involved here and see it we can't figure out why vendors are out of the things Aerotech says have been shipping regularly.
Correct they may have the cases in stock, but not the closures. Or if they have closures, they don't have the cases.
So you're saying there's stock.
I'm pretty sure that's not what I said.
8 out of 9
9 out of 10
6 out of 7.
That's 3 cases there, buy one.
Cases will soon be widely available. Just sayin
I keep telling them that but they don't beleive me.
I want to believe, but can't hold my breath till the end of November, lol.
By the way, Crossfire, I like your avatar. That was one of my son's very first rockets he and I built together.
So whats really going on here? AT says everything is in stock and available. Others say not so much.
I have a friend of mine (Countyline Hobbies) who is dropping selling motors because of his frustration with getting motors and hardware from AT as it seems a lot of items are "back ordered." Is he lying? Is he just not placing big enough orders? Why is he walking away from what is clearly a money maker for him? And it's not like he's hiding it as he posted it on the Michiana Rocketry Facebook page:
Hard to say. A local AT dealer in Florida who works out of his car has been able to get me motors & hardware. Might take 6-8 weeks but he always delivers. Last week when I was in Chris Short’s trailer, he had quite an inventory. I think a lot has to do with order size.
It would be really nice if you could get Mike @ BAR some of them, then (including one as the warranty replacement for me). He was completely out of both 38/360's and 38/720's at XPRS (which is why my CATO warranty couldn't be serviced on-site), and was still completely out at October Skies. And I wasn't the only one in his trailer looking for those cases. Thanks.
Yup- that was me... I can't wait for the motor to come out for sale!
More importantly, I was impressed with how fast AT reacted with the DMS motor cato issue at MWP. As someone who works (tangentially) on quality processes in my day job, this was a very quick analysis and response.
I am thinking that Aerotech may be trying to "nudge" people back to single-use DMS motors, now that BATFE no longer regulates APCP.
Well, again, people have been saying that for a long time. I hope you're right, obviously, but you have to understand there's zero reason to believe that on our end. Boy who cried wolf and all that.
Understandable. I wouldn't believe it unless I had already seen it...
Yep, that's a BRAND new AT 24/40 in BLUE...
Plus I had a blue 29/180 in my hand... So, be patient. It'll happen.
It's a pretty case, I like the blue, but we want to see those suckers rolling off the assembly lines like sausages.
You people and your colored casings. Me? There is no way I could possibly care less for the case color. They be could anodized hot pink and it would not dissuade my decision to purchase one bit. They disappear into the rocket which is why I have never ever understood why case color matters. Ever.
I would actually like something other than black just so I can tell how clean I've gotten it.
But not if it slows down getting the things to customers.
It's so they can sell duplicates to jd2cylman. He's like a crow that collects shiny things and builds a nest out of them.
Now that's a good point...never thought of that.
You are hilarious
Dr.Rocket red was nice. RT/Monster gold was great, blue not as much. Black cases are the worst. You can't see anything inside them and the threads. Stick with brighter colors not for the "shiney" factor but more so that they're high contrast with spent motor leavings and are thus easier to see when they're clean.
Honestly, this is the biggest part... Hard to see black residue in black cases or seal discs. RT silver seal discs are MUCH easier to keep clean.
Oh, and SHINY!!!
Actually, think how hard it would be to lose a hot pink case. You loan that sucker out, you know they'll bring it back...
You kick it out on the grass, it'll show...
Kick it out in a corn field, yeah, it's gone...
If AT were to switch to pink, over time everyone who had one would have a pink one...thus no stigma in having a pink case and no issue with lack of returned loaners.
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