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  1. Jan 27, 2020 #3,331

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    Yes AT resource page and RCS parts. here some examples.
    Click drawing find motor, blow up diagram and look at nozzle. # 3 on list.
    Here are some links you will have to search through for what ya want it is ALL there.

    On RCS nozzle pages click on nozzle then when that page shows click drawings for detail.

    http://www.aerotech-rocketry.com/cu...gs/29mm_hp_rms/29-240/29-240_h210r-l_assy.pdf

    https://www.rocketmotorparts.com/Single-Throat_Nozzles/cat1577810_1455491.aspx

    http://www.aerotech-rocketry.com/resources.aspx?id=6



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    Exactly what i was looking for! thanks Jim
     
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    Neat! I did not know AT was producing those. I checked Wildman's site and they are listed "In Stock". I also searched the the Net for "Aerotech 54FFCPE" and "Aerotech 54FFCP". found 2 listings for each type.
     
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    Here's a list I compiled a few years ago. You'll notice a lot show Medusa nozzles. More motors have been certified since then.

    Designation Nozzle
    18/20 D13-4W 01000-1 .077"
    18/20 D13-7W 01000-1 .077"
    18/20 D13-10W 01000-1 .077"
    18/20 D24-4T 01050 .120" D21
    18/20 D24-7T 01050 .120" D21
    18/20 D24-10T 01050 .120" D21

    24/40 D9-4W 01250 .086" E6/E15
    24/40 D9-7W 01250 .086" E6/E15
    24/40 D15-4T 01300 .104" E15/E28
    24/40 D15-7T 01300 .104" E15/E28
    24/40 E11-3J 01250 .086" E6/E15
    24/40 E18-4W 01300 .104" E15/E28
    24/40 E18-7W 01300 .104" E15/E28
    24/40 E28-4T 01350 .141" E30/E50
    24/40 E28-7T 01350 .141" E30/E50
    24/40 F12-3J 01250 .086" E6/E15
    24/40 F12-5J 01250 .086" E6/E15
    24/40 F24-4W 01300-1 .125"
    24/40 F24-7W 01300-1 .125"
    24/40 F39-6T 01350-2 .166"
    24/40 F39-9T 01350-2 .166"

    29/40-120 E16-4W 01250 .086" E6/E15
    29/40-120 E16-7W 01250 .086" E6/E15
    29/40-120 E23-5T 01300-1 .125"
    29/40-120 E23-8T 01300-1 .125"
    29/40-120 F22-5J 01300 .104" E15/E28
    29/40-120 F22-7J 01300 .104" E15/E28
    29/40-120 F40-4W 01300-2 .136"
    29/40-120 F40-7W 01300-2 .136"
    29/40-120 F40-10W 01300-2 .136"
    29/40-120 F52-5T 01350-1 .156"
    29/40-120 F52-8T 01350-1 .156"
    29/40-120 F52-11T 01350-1 .156"
    29/40-120 G33-5J 01300-1 .125"
    29/40-120 G33-7J 01300-1 .125"
    29/40-120 G64-4W 01350 .141" E30/E50
    29/40-120 G64-7W 01350 .141" E30/E50
    29/40-120 G64-10W 01350 .141" E30/E50

    29/60 F37W-S 01400 .104" F10/F30
    29/60 F37W-M 01400 .104" F10/F30
    29/60 F37W-L 01400 .104" F10/F30
    29/60 F62T-S 01400-2 .125" F10/F30
    29/60 F62T-M 01400-2 .125" F10/F30
    29/60 F62T-L 01400-2 .125" F10/F30
    29/100 G54W-S 01400-3 .136" F10/F30
    29/100 G54W-M 01400-3 .136" F10/F30
    29/100 G54W-L 01400-3 .136" F10/F30
    29/100 G104T-S 01400-3 .136" F10/F30
    29/100 G104T-M 01400-3 .136" F10/F30
    29/100 G104T-L 01400-3 .136" F10/F30
    29/120 G77R-S 01500 .180" F60/G80
    29/120 G77R-M 01500 .180" F60/G80
    29/120 G79W-S 01450-4 .172" G45/F60
    29/120 G79W-M 01450-4 .172" G45/F60
    29/120 G79W-L 01450-4 .172" G45/F60
    29/180 G75J-S 01450-2 .156" G45/F60
    29/180 G75J-M 01450-2 .156" G45/F60
    29/180 H128W-S 01500 .180" F60/G80
    29/180 H128W-M 01500 .180" F60/G80
    29/180 H128W-L 01500 .180" F60/G80
    29/180 H165R-S 01500 .180" F60/G80
    29/180 H165R-M 01500 .180" F60/G80
    29/180 H165R-L 01500 .180" F60/G80
    29/180 H238T-S 01500-5 .228" F60/G80
    29/180 H238T-M 01500-5 .228" F60/G80
    29/180 H238T-L 01500-5 .228" F60/G80
    29/240 H97J-S 01450-5 .177" F60/G45
    29/240 H97J-M 01450-5 .177" F60/G45
    29/240 H180W-S 01500-3 .213" F60/G80
    29/240 H180W-M 01500-3 .213" F60/G80
    29/240 H180W-L 01500-3 .213" F60/G80
    29/240 H210R-M 01500-3 .213" F60/G80
    29/240 H210R-L 01500-3 .213" F60/G80
    29/240 H220T-S 01500-6 .266" F60/G80
    29/240 H220T-M 01500-6 .266" F60/G80
    29/240 H220T-L 01500-6 .266" F60/G80
    29/360 H268R-M 01550 .291" NEW L2
    29/360 H268R-L 01550 .291" NEW L2
    29/360 I200W-S 01550 .291" NEW L2
    29/360 I200W-M 01550 .291" NEW L2
    29/360 I200W-L 01550 .291" NEW L2

    38/120 G61W-S 01400-3 .136" F10/F30
    38/120 G61W-M 01400-3 .136" F10/F30
    38/120 G61W-L 01400-3 .136" F10/F30
    38/120 G67R 01400-3 .136" F10/F30
    38/120 G69N 01400 .104" Modified exit shape
    38/120 G339N O1500-2 .206"
    38/240 H73J-S 01450 .141" F60/G45
    38/240 H73J-M 01450 .141" F60/G45
    38/240 H73J-L 01450 .141" F60/G45
    38/240 H123W-S 01500 .180" F60/G80
    38/240 H123W-M 01500 .180" F60/G80
    38/240 H123W-L 01500 .180" F60/G80
    38/240 H148R-S 01500 .180" F60/G80
    38/240 H148R-M 01500 .180" F60/G80
    38/240 H148R-L 01500 .180" F60/G80
    38/240 H242T-S 01500-5 .228" F60/G80
    38/240 H242T-M 01500-5 .228" F60/G80
    38/240 H699N O1550 .291"
    38/360 H112J-S 01450-3 .161" F60/G45
    38/360 H112J-M 01450-3 .161" F60/G45
    38/360 H112J-L 01450-3 .161" F60/G45
    38/360 I218R-S 01500-5 .228" F60/G80
    38/360 I218R-M 01500-5 .228" F60/G80
    38/360 I218R-L 01500-5 .228" F60/G80
    38/360 I161W-S 01500-5 .228" F60/G80
    38/360 I161W-M 01500-5 .228" F60/G80
    38/360 I218R 01500-5 .228" F60/G80
    38/360 I357T-S 01500-6 .266" F60/G80
    38/360 I357T-M 01500-6 .266" F60/G80
    38/360 H999N O1550-2 .359"
    38/480 I154J-S 01500 .180" F60/G80
    38/480 I154J-M 01500 .180" F60/G80
    38/480 I211W-S 01500-6 .266" F60/G80
    38/480 I211W-M 01500-6 .266" F60/G80
    38/480 I225FJ 01500-6 .266" F60/G80
    38/480 I285R-S 01500-6 .266" F60/G80
    38/480 I285R-M 01500-6 .266" F60/G80
    38/480 I285R-L 01500-6 .266" F60/G80
    38/480 I300T-S 01500-7 .313" F60/G80
    38/480 I300T-M 01500-7 .313" F60/G80
    38/480 I1299N O1550-X .404"
    38/600 I195J-S 01500 .180" F60/G80
    38/600 I195J-M 01500 .180" F60/G80
    38/600 I195J-L 01500 .180" F60/G80
    38/600 I284W-S 01500-6 .266" F60/G80
    38/600 I284W-M 01500-6 .266" F60/G80
    38/600 I305FJ 01500-6 .266" F60/G80
    38/600 I366R-S 01550 .291" NEW L2
    38/600 I366R-M 01550 .291" NEW L2
    38/600 I366R-L 01550 .291" NEW L2
    38/600 I435T-S 01550-1 .313" NEW L2
    38/600 I435T-M 01550-1 .313" NEW L2
    38/600 I435T-L 01550-1 .313" NEW L2
    38/720 I600R-M 01550 .291" NEW L2
    38/720 J350W-S 01550 .291" NEW L2
    38/720 J350W-M 01550 .291" NEW L2
    38/720 J350W-L 01550 .291" NEW L2
    38/720 J420R-S 01550 .291" NEW L2
    38/720 I600R 01550 .291" NEW L2
    38/720 I364FJ 01550 .291" NEW L2
    38/1080 J570W-S 01550-2 .359" NEW L2
    38/1080 J570W-M 01550-2 .359" NEW L2
    38/1080 J575FJ 01550-2 .359" NEW L2
    38/1080 825R 01550-2 .359" NEW L2

    54/852 J90W O1700-1 .266
    54/852 J180T O1700-2 .213 + 3x.161"
    54/852 J275W O1700-3 .228 + 2x.161"
    54/852 J315R O1700-3 .228 + 2x.161"
    54/852 J460T O1700-5 .250 + 3x.196"
    54/852 J1299N O1670-2 .562"
    54/1280 J135W O1700-3 .228 + 2x.161"
    54/1280 J415W O1700-6 .234 + 3x.182"
    54/1280 J540R O1700-6 .234 + 3x.182"
    54/1280 J800T O1700-8 .250 + 6x.188"
    54/1280 J1999N O1670-6 .713"
    54/1706 K185W O1700-9 .250 + 3x.161"
    54/1706 K550W O1700-10 .266 + 3x.213"
    54/1706 K695R O1670 .455"
    54/1706 K1100T O1700-12 .297 + 6x.220"
    54/2560 K700W O1670-5 .555"
    54/2560 K1275R O1670-2 .562"

    75/1280 K1499N O1750-5 .344 + 4x.266"
    75/2560 K560W O1750-1 .344 + 2x.242"
    75/2560 K780R O1750-1 .344 + 2x.242"
    75/3840 L850W O1750-2 .344 + 4x.242"
    75/3840 L1150R O1750-2 .344 + 4x.242"
    75/5120 M1297W O1750-3 .344 + 6x.242"
    75/5120 L1420R O1750-3 .344 + 6x.242"
    75/6400 M1315W O1750-4 .344 + 6x.281"
    75/6400 M1550R O1770-1 .769"
    75/7680 M1850W O1770-4 .844"

    98/2560 K458W O1800 .413"
    98/2560 K650T O1800 .594"
    98/2560 K680R O1800 .413"
    98/2560 K1999N O1800 .734"
    98/5120 L952W O1800 .594"
    98/5120 L1300R O1800 .594"
    98/5120 L1500T O1800 .734"
    98/7680 M1419W O1800 .734"
    98/7680 M1600R O1800 .734"
    98/7680 M2400T O1800 .844"
    98/10240 M1939W O1800 .844"
    98/10240 M2000R O1800 .844"
    98/10240 M2500T O1800 1.00"
    98/15360 N2000W O1800 1.00"
    98/18000 N4800T O1875 1.25" Graphite
     
  6. Jan 28, 2020 #3,336

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    RocketJunkie you are making it too easy;) thanks!
     
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    That's exactly what I was looking for, thanks! Maybe I glossed over it but in previous model numbers they used T at the end to indicate a threadded option and It was not present so I didn't want to assume.
     
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    Is this the new one with the additional spacer for the 54/2800 case?
     
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    Still not Carl... ;-)

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    He's like the owner/founder...
     
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    One in the same...
     
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    One and the same, even.

    /ducks
     
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    It looks as if you didn't read the introduction on the indiegogo page....
     

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    Yeah, because it’s super practical to spend weeks building a rocket, then driving for hours, and spend further hours to set up and launch a rocket into the heavens...

    Only to find our offering to the sky Gods are rejected, and brother Gravity “asserts dominance,” and hurls our rocket back towards us.

    Sister Murphy then applies her law, and inhumes our rocket into Mother Earth... who will then withhold our rocket from us until we perform the ritual of exhumation — which ends with the consumption of many “cold ones.”

    All so can get the same drink that normally takes a few steps to the refrigerator.

    I think Gary knows perfectly well I don’t care about practicality...
     
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    Hrmm, do I have enough gear to run one in a hybrid J390 with the extended Hypertek bottlle....
     
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    And if not, why not?
     
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    Thanks!

    Even better - thanks!

    Since I don't cook my own motors, and net of the disclaimer (Short burn (<1 second), cooler burning propellants, and pressures less than 500 PSI to avoid excessive nozzle erosion.), what AT motors could be coupled with the aerospike nozzle?

    None of those I have in stock burn <1 sec.
    Should this nozzle only be paired with N (Warp-9) and ST (Super Thunder) motors? At what pressure do those burn?
     
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    Warp-9, Super Thunder and Black Max should be good candidates. They have also been flown by another individual with White Lightning but I did not witness those tests. He received the majority of the prototypes back then. After we receive the new production run, we will conduct a few more static tests to make better recommendations.

     
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    Hi Gary,
    Would it be possible to have the following?
    Updated motor matrix/list
    Drawings of DMS motors- for RCS purposes
    Broader range of RCS propellant grain sizes for the different motor types?
    Long burn RBG motors?
     
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    Rob,

    I will work on the updated matrix.

    Pretty sure the DMS motor drawings are already posted in the experimental motor kit pages. For example:

    https://d11fdyfhxcs9cr.cloudfront.n...yimages/generic_54mm_hp_emk_assy_no_liner.pdf

    Let us know specifically what additional grains you are most interested in, we’ll see if it’s feasible.

    We are looking at some longer burning BT motors currently. However our main focus right now is to get all existing products in stock and reduce lead times.

     
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    Thanks Gary for the replies.
    MG grains in the 29, 38 54mm size?
     
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    What became of the DMS H55DM that I saw on FB a couple years ago?
     
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    That was a development motor that has not made it to production (yet).

     
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    I can look at that but there are DOT approval limitations on MG we would have to work with.

     
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    2/16/2020

    AeroTech Receives Four New California State Fire Marshal Rocket Motor Approvals

    The California Office of the State Fire Marshal (OSFM) has issued classification approvals for four new AeroTech rocket motor products including two DMS™ Disposable Motor System™ single-use high-power motors and two RMS™ Reloadable Motor System™ high-power reload kits.

    The specific products approved are:

    29mm DMS High-Power Single-Use Motors
    H169WS-13A (P/N 081613) Super White Lightning™

    54mm DMS High-Power Single-Use Motors
    K455NW-17A (P/N 114517) Warp-9™/White Lightning™ Boost-Sustain

    75mm RMS High-Power Reload Kits
    L1256WS-PS (P/N 12126P) Super White Lightning
    M2050X-PS (P/N 13205P) Propellant X™

    The approvals allow the purchase and use of these rocket motor products by California consumers. All the approved high-power products must be sold as “Experimental High Power Rocket Motors for licensed use” in the state of California.

    A copy of the new California OSFM approval document is now available for download in PDF format from the Resource Library on the AeroTech website at CSFM High Power Approvals 2-3-20
     
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    Any word on 38mm End Burn closures? I have an outstanding warranty on one of those still.
     
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    Why is Aerotech getting rid of the single-use 18mm motors like the D10 and sticking only with the insufficiently-thrusted QJets?
     

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