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#### wyldbill

##### Well-Known Member
I'm gathering parts to kit one of my designs and encountering a shortage of PNC-80Ks. If you're hoarding some that you can afford to get rid of, left me know. I'm trying to gather enough for 20 kits, but will take more if you've got 'em.

This is the Estes Phoenix NC (amongst others).

thanks,
-bill

##### Well-Known Member
Originally posted by wyldbill
I'm gathering parts to kit one of my designs and encountering a shortage of PNC-80Ks. If you're hoarding some that you can afford to get rid of, left me know. I'm trying to gather enough for 20 kits, but will take more if you've got 'em.

This is the Estes Phoenix NC (amongst others).

thanks,
-bill
I'm with ya Bill. I called Christine at ESTES and they won't sell them to me because they end up in my kits....go figure. (Gee, I wonder how they feel about their motors?)

Anyway, BMS has em. They're balsa, but they have em.
BMS Catalog>>>>PDF

#### wyldbill

##### Well-Known Member
Unfortunately I can't use Balsa, way too heavy for this design.

But thanks anyway....

-bill

#### CTimm

##### Well-Known Member
Way too heavy???? Balsa vs PNC-80???
Is this an A3-4T powered BT-80 model or what?

What is unique about your design that prohibits the use of a balsa BNC-80K vs a plastic PNC-80K?

The PNC weighs in at 58 grams (2 oz)
The BNC weighs in at 66 grams (2.25oz)

If your design is that fussy about 1/4 oz, how will you account for intangibles like heavy primer & paint.

Can we get a look at it? Rocsim file maybe?

CTimm

#### jetra2

##### Well-Known Member
Agreed...if anything...the extra 1/4 ounce should make the rocket more stable, unless it's some kind of odd-roc!

If you can post the file in V5 format for us demo-only cheapskates, we'd be much appreciative.

Jason

#### wyldbill

##### Well-Known Member
Pretty amazing how fast "Anyone got some NCs that they want to get rid of?" turns into, "you can't know what you're doing" and "what can I get for free"?

-bill

#### CTimm

##### Well-Known Member
I never said you didn't know what you're doing.
I am curious as to how a design you plan on marketing to the public is limited by a quarter oz of extra nose weight.
More information on the unique design would be helpful for further discussion. If thats okay with you.
If its TOP SECRET, thats okay too.
Its just that 'less' not 'more' in the nose is a rarity.
Inquiring minds inquire.
And even though this part wasn't specifically aimed at me, I have a fully paid for RockSim V7.04.
I don't understand why the people that use the demo version don't ante up for the real thing.
Its most definately worth it.

CTimm

##### Well-Known Member
Originally posted by wyldbill
Pretty amazing how fast "Anyone got some NCs that they want to get rid of?" turns into, "you can't know what you're doing" and "what can I get for free"?

-bill
Where was th free part....?

Somebody..play Free Bird!

#### wyldbill

##### Well-Known Member
Originally posted by CTimm
...would be helpful for further discussion.
The only discussion here is "Do you have any PNC-80Ks for sale". If you're talking about something else, you're talking amongst yourselves.

If I wanted a design critique, I would have created a "Critique my Design" thread in the Scratch Built forum.

#### sandman

##### Well-Known Member
Bill,

I did a search and came up dry. Maybe you can try some others.

Somewhere there was a thread about somebody having a bunch of them.

I bought 3 at NARAM 43 from soebody with a REALLY BIG cardboard box full of them. A vendor, but I don't remember who it was.

sandman

#### Tallman

##### Well-Known Member
If you haven't already been sent there, try Ken at Performance Hobbies https://www.performancehobbies.com/

HTH,

#### Jerry Irvine

##### Well-Known Member
Originally posted by CTimm
Way too heavy???? Balsa vs PNC-80???
Is this an A3-4T powered BT-80 model or what?

What is unique about your design that prohibits the use of a balsa BNC-80K vs a plastic PNC-80K?

The PNC weighs in at 58 grams (2 oz)
The BNC weighs in at 66 grams (2.25oz)

If your design is that fussy about 1/4 oz, how will you account for intangibles like heavy primer & paint.

Can we get a look at it? Rocsim file maybe?

CTimm
Hollow out the BNC so it is overall far lighter.

Tech Post Jerry